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House Delays Vote On Same-Sex Marriage

An amendment added to the bill would delay same-sex marriage ceremonies until after the 2012 elections.

 

The House of Delegates Thursday night delayed a vote on same-sex marriage legislation after adopting an amendment that would delay the ceremonies until January 2013.

"That way, there can be no games played should this issue be petitioned to referendum," said Del. Wade Kach, a Republican who represents northern Baltimore County.

Kach said this is meant to prevent a situation, such as what happened in California, where civil marriages went into effect and marriages were performed, but the law was defeated in a referendum.

The amendment, offered by Kach, was adopted by a simple voice vote.

The adoption of the amendment was unusual given that the same amendment was killed in committee on Tuesday night.

Kach, who had previously opposed the bill, switched his vote Wednesday. His vote was said to be contingent on approval of the amendment, according to an Associated Press report.

Kach declined to talk to Patch, but a spokesman said that the delegate had made no such agreement.

"He's voting for the gay marriage bill," said Joe Gutberlet, a Kach spokesman. "He's made up his mind and there's no going back. It's a strong vote."

Kach is one of two Baltimore County delegates to switch positions on the bill in the last 24 hours. Del. John Olszewski Jr., a Dundalk Democrat, announced Thursday he too would support the bill.

"It is not the role of the State to tell my church—or any other faith community—what its beliefs can and cannot be," Olszewski wrote in a statement. "To that end, I have preferred the implementation of civil unions, but to go another day—or let alone another year, or perhaps longer—denying equal rights to all Marylanders would be a disgrace."

The change of heart by the two delegates was welcome news to supporters who are looking to lock up delegates in what is expected to be a very close vote.

Last year the same bill was sent back to committee after supporters fell a few votes short of the 71 needed for passage.

Supporters did apparently lose at least one vote but not because of a change in position.

Del. Veronica Turner, a Prince George's County Democrat and supporter of the same-sex marriage bill, will apparently miss the vote because of a medical procedure that will be performed Friday.

Opponents say the delays, the third in two days, signal that supporters of same-sex marriage do not have the votes again.

"If they had the votes they would have shot down the amendments tonight and passed the bill," said House Minority Leader Del. Anthony O'Donnell.

"There's a large, bi-partisan opposition to this bill, and it's very solid," said O'Donnell.

The House is expected to take up debate on amendments to the bill Friday at 12:30 p.m. A preliminary vote could be taken some time soon after with a final vote coming possibly as early as Monday night.

Related Topics: Tony O'Donnell, Veronica Turner, Wade Kach, john olszewski jr., same-sex couples, and same-sex marriage maryland

Mike McAuliffe

12:07 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

In this day and age, it may be a good time for Maryland, and all the states for that matter, to get out of the marriage business. They are no longer capable of defining it properly. Going back in time 230 years to when our young country was establishing itself, the marriage of every man and every women was almost expected by our Euro- American culture and considered a necessity, if we were to continue mankind's existence on this Earth. The belief of one man with one woman seemed as natural as grass and the tall trees to most people, and apparently natural enough to our original legislators that marriage was incorporated into our laws. Now that this thinking seems to have gone to the wayside for many citizens, because it doesn't feel so natural to them or due course, it may be time to remove marriage from the law and leave it to the individuals and their churches. My Baptismal certificate is in my church's file cabinet, as well as my Communion certificate, Reconciliation certificate, Confirmation Certificate, and Marriage certificate. All of these religious sacraments were bestowed a upon me and accepted by me before God, my family, my fellow congregants, my friends and my wife. I don't remember my legislators being there at all, yet they insist on determining my commitment to my wife and documenting it in their file cabinets.

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Tim

12:13 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Perhaps. It's an interesting point to consider.

There'd be nothing inherently 'wrong' with simply getting rid of marriage from a legal sense.

Replace it with the term "civil union" completely.
All benefits from employers would be based on civil union instead of marriage.

Revert the concept of marriage to only religious meaning. It wouldn't exactly mesh with the true English definition of marriage, but in the end if everyone's treated the same in the eyes of the law, then you know the whole six and half dozen saying.

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Mike McAuliffe

12:13 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Rather than the government looking to redefine marriage so as to include every combination of gender unions, they should just allow each individual citizen to assign a person or persons to be their power of attorney for legal purposes, and stop defining love and commitment.
When same sex marriage becomes recognized by the state there will still be the polygamists desiring multi-partner marriages feeling left out. "How dare the legislators regulate marriage to only two people?", they will ask.

Since giving parents tax breaks for having children was created to endorse and foster the traditional family unit, they should do away with those too, while they are tossing out the traditional marriage certificates.

With 50% of this nation's traditional marriages ending in divorce, and litigated in court, I'm not sure why the gays and lesbians want to even be part of this failure rate. My vows of commitment to my wife 25 years ago to have and hold til death do we part was in no way influenced because Maryland law permitted it.
Do away with marriage laws and marriage benefits. Keep religion in church and keep law in government.

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Tim

12:20 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Mike: Because even gays and lesbians truly desire to find lifetime love. Is that too much to ask?

It really just blows my mind that religious folks get so up in arms about the word. As if a gay marriage would reduce the value of their own, perfectly good hetero marriage...

*shrug*

Mike McAuliffe

12:29 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Tim, You got me curious when you wrote "the true English definition of marriage", and probably for the first time I actually went to the dictionary to see how Webster defines marriage. I've always had my own definition, and mine fit into what traditionalists would call a marriage. I was amused to see three definitions and they went in order from a traditional view and worked their way down to what is about to be defined as by are Legislators. To set the record straight, though tolerating of gays and lesbians, I'm not in favor of this bill.

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Mike McAuliffe

12:33 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Gays and lesbians that I work with are tolerating of my traditional lifestyle and choices, and I'm tolerating of their not so traditional ones. We have a good working relationship and leave it at that. A live and live approach from both sides.

Stevie

7:36 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Thank you Mike for tolerating us Gays. We really appreciate it, especially at tax time, when we pay the same taxes as you do, yet don't enjoy the same rights and protections. Your tolerance really gets me pumped.

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Karl Schuub

9:37 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Not everybody qualifies for every deduction. I don't have kids; so I don't get a deduction, nor agriculture property, nor the myriad of deductions for small business owners including travel, equipment, etc. - the list can get very, very long...so you don't get a marriage deduction; that deduction amounts to pennies. How about the mortgage deduction...people that rent don't get that either; is that fair? You have the same rights and protections; the only thing we're talking about here is marriage; so let's not blovate and exaggerate what's at stake here. I could care less who you sleep with; but I do care about the continuing attack on the traditional family unit that is and has been the strength and backbone of this country and I don't have kids. Do whatever you want; but leave marriage alone. It's one of the few things left that might help us out of this continuing social decline that's so evident all around us.

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Bob

11:00 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Karl….remember though…you have the RIGHT to that deduction should you have a child. You have the RIGHT to purchase Agriculture property or own a small business. People who rent have the RIGHT to purchase a home and claim that deduction. I hope you can see the theme here….its about equal RIGHTS.

Richard Hiteshew

7:38 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

This whole issue is being used by the politicians to deflect the public from the real issues. Like they continue to spend our tax dollars like a drunken sailor, enriching themselves and their friends. Meanwhile they cut jobs, benefits, chase compainies out of state and country, pass meaningless laws that have no teath, then see you at church like they really care about you. What a sham!

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Valleycrest

8:02 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Marriage as a term means one woman one man. Two men or two woman does not meet that definition so hence no marriage. The state denies each and everyone of us privileges if we do not meet the requirements. I want to be called a lawyer but do not meet the requirements.

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gerri

9:49 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

This country has run its course..down the drain.. Look at the issues people. We are supporting hundreds of thousands of people on the backs of the working man. Illegals, that get college tuition, health care and anything else there DEMAND. Why because of our representatives. Its a smoke screen making such an issue on Gay Marriage...its a joke. Maybe this representatives are worried about what we may see at the end of their own beds.... Heres a thought lets get a representative that represents our views. Not the views of the blowing wind. They get in and they become Gods. I was married for 40 years and I couldn't care less what people do in their beds.

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Bob

11:04 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

Well thats great Gerri, because the issue is not about what you are allowed to do in your bed. It's about being given the same rights regardless of what you do in your bed.

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gerri

7:55 pm on Friday, February 17, 2012

Well Bob thank you for being so informative. I know what the bill is about. Its about government as usual being into things that they have no right to be involved in. Two people can have a committed marriage no matter what there sex is and should have all the same rights. Its about the self rightous representatives forcing there views

Michael Middleton

10:23 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

It is the same with any other discrimination. Unfortunately, we have a bunch of people who say that the gay and lesbian community can do whatever they want, just stay out of marriage. However, until they have legal rights, and it is recognized as "legal", it allows others to legally discriminate, denying basic rights that heterosexual couples have. It is not about the terms used or the definition of said terms or the individual (or religious) acceptance of the union. It is about equal treatment under the law.

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David A Aughenbaugh

11:23 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

The argument is growing very old on me, yet I don't understand why the fight has become over a 'word', opponents want the word reserved for reasons of faith or traditional definition, the proponents want the word because, well, they want it, it's their right <?>. This issue would go away, if the State would get out of the marriage business all together and only recognize 'civil unions', the issuance of a civil union license by the state and consummated by an agent of the state, faith based or civil recognition, what would be wrong with this approach? My marriage, (Catholic) is as Mike defined above is a sacrament...I could care less how the state sees it. They only see me as a means for revenue.

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David A Aughenbaugh

11:22 am on Friday, February 17, 2012

The house is burning down and we are arguing about the color of the wallpaper!

Adrian Stone

5:22 pm on Sunday, February 19, 2012

Those who believe marriage to historically be defined as one man and one woman are about as dense as people come. The truth its: it's none of your business. If a man wishes to marry a man, or twenty women, it is their business.

This boils down to religion in government, and nothing more. Well, remember the people had the chance to be governed by their fellow man, of by God, and they chose their fellow man. Don't like it? Burn your Bibles and start your own religion, you fiendish blasphemers.

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