This is exactly what we need!

Good for them. There is absolutely no reasonable use for assult weapons in the hands of citizens.

I'm sure that all the anti-gun-control nuts are going to come out of the woodwork on this one with their usual "guns don't kill people, people do" crap. Since the constitution was written when the only guns were single-shot muzzle-loaders, the law should be changed to only allow that kind of gun in private ownership today. How could anyone call such a law "unconstitutional"?

Doesn't Connecticut have some of the strictest gun laws in the country? It didn't seem to matter. I don't know for sure, but there doesn't seem to be a disproportionate amount of mass shootings in the states with loose gun laws. There is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed, but it doesn't seem like a "gun law" issue. It seems like a "why are so many people going crazy" issue.

If individuals, including our elected officials, would take a minute, jump off the bandwagon, and look up the definition of assault weapon, they may realize that the unfortunate acts of violence that have brought about this discussion were not committed with assault weapons. The responsible discussion involves mental health. Guns don't kill 20 innocent kids in Newtown, Connecticut. Mentally ill individuals do.

...and just for the record... I do own a handgun and I can't think of any reason why I would ever need to own an assault rifle.

Kamenets is right. Here is the video to prove him right. A must see!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh4oHK8Dgck&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Tougher gun laws aren't going to keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people. Look at the Perry Hall high school shooting, those guns came from the kid's parent or grand parent's house. The CT shooing, guns came from the shooter's mom's house. What we need is stronger education of people who have possession of these guns. Making it tougher for law-abiding citizens to buy/own a firearm is not going to stop these crimes, no more than it would prevent a tragedy had a firearm been stolen from a residence then used to rob a bank. Part of the solution is in education, not elimination. Unfortunately we don't live in a world where a gun can be coded to on fire when it's held by it's gun owner like James Bond's gun in Skyfall, but until that technology is widely available...we need to educate each other on firearm safety. If you're an avid gun collector, and want to go the range, that is perfectly fine, but keep your firearms out of the hands of others and store them properly. I'm not trying to say the CT shooter's mother stores them improperly, but it was easy enough for him to access multiple weapons inside her house.

Come on all of you thinkers - answer this one question please please PLEASE.
*********Why the shooting massacres never happen at the shooting ranges?...... **********

I am not in favor of taking guns away from citizens who have legally obtained them. That being said, we have no need for assult weapons or large clips of ammonition. A background check should include a mental examination of the individual purchasing guns. At least do a mental background check. The sad part is that some of these weapons are purchased at gun shows where there isn't any paperwork done. Change that procedure too. All people should have a waiting period and mental and background checks. Don't allow guns to be purchased on the internet either.

This is a knee jerk reaction - none of the points specified in their open letter would have mitigated or prevented the tragedy in CT. People look for answers and reasons where there are none.

Thanks for lat least having 1 police officer present at our elementary schools this morning! You had an entire weekend to plan, county government needs to step up!! . Armed guards are $20 an hour, protect our Children, stop wasting time on long term solutions and fix Your problems that are Now. Freaks are shooting in downtown Towson, for a stupid bar fight! protect the kids Now!!! Get rid of assault weapons they r totally not necessary anywhere but in the military!! Police would volunteer but no one thinks about short term fixes:)

I agree that we all have the right to bear arms. However assault weapons are overkill for the average citizen. That weaponry should be reserved for military , police and first responders. I do want to point out that if this mother knew her son had mental health issues, she should never have taken him to a firing range and exposed him to guns. She was remiss in her duty as a responsible gun owner by not having the weapons locked up and broken down by ammunition and firing pins. Her lack of common sense unfortunately cost so much pain and loss to innocents.

Hows that assault weapons ban working in Sweden? Yeah that's what i thought. You commies!

I'm very glad they are calling for tougher gun laws. There is no reason whatsoever the average citizen needs a gun that does all that the assault ones do. Of course, I don't understand why the average citizen needs a gun at all.

Only simple minds find such simple solutions to such complex issues.

Concealed Carry permits don't affect crime at all. The subject has been studied Ad Nauseum.

What a overly simplistic approach to this problem. And one that will do no good I might add. In countries where they have banned guns they now use knives or other weapons. In china there was an incident recently where over 20 children were stabbed to death in school there. Banning guns is like draining the ocean to catch a fish. How immature and dumb these politicos are. They always reach for simplistic answers and never solve the real problem. Autism and other illness' are the cause in almost every case. We closed Spring Grove and other mental hospitals years ago to save money and now we have roaming dangerous individuals doing these deeds. And institutions are not the only answer either. This is a complex issue. Stupid polititicians need to wake up. Violent games, prozac type drugs, mental issues go hand in hand in nearly all these cases. Do we ban any of them? Goofy bloats, this Kamenetz

True, if Lanza had had a pack full of knives or sledges, he likely wouldn't have been able to kill as many innocents as he could with guns, but he would have still killed many. It was a seriously distubed individual who willed the killing, not the guns themselves. One thing that disturbs me, almost as much as the murders, is the way the media , especially TV, have milked it for every bit of pathos!, pathos!, pathos! they can get out of it.. This is totally disgusting! They just about ignore everything else happening in the world (rxcept Hilary's flu/fall) to pound their idealistic anti-gun message into our eyes and ears. What an exhibition of iexpediency and diocy!!

Is it any wonder why Maryland is so f'd up? Look at all these idiots and their comments. We are so screwed.

Tougher controls? HORSE HOCKEY!!! Enforce the laws you have on the books .... all of them! Judges need to stop the slaps on the wrist! Tougher controls will only make it more difficult for the educated, law-abding gun owner. Criminals will still get guns even if they have to steal them!

Ok then the shooter with carry more magazines to accomplish his mission. I said this in a previous post a proficient shooter can squeeze of just as many round with 17 round clips or 10 round clips. Damn I hate the shotgun approach to things. Maybe if the school had been locked down with one secured entrance, a metal detector and school police things could have turned out different.

The officials call for everyone to sit down and have the discussion on better gun control seem to only want to do away with guns and limit or eliminate citizens from having them. Where it is unanimously agreed that guns should not be in the hands of criminals and those mentally/emotionally impaired why do they refuse to allow the discussion on allowing responsible, law abiding citizens the right to own and carry weapons? There is a good and valid reason banks post armed guards, it certainly deters potential robbers from attempting a heist. Since all banks do not have armed guards it usually the ones that don't that get robbed. Why do people post signs on their houses that they have a burglar system? To deter potential thieves. Criminals that use guns will always try to make sure they are going into a situation where they are looking down the butt of a gun and not the barrel. Give them a gun free zone and it is like shooting ducks in a barrel. My point is trying to keep guns out of the wrong hands, although necessary and logical, has worked it doing what it has been intended to do. Allowing rational, responsible, law abiding citizens the right to own and carry weapons along with the current laws seems to make sense.

1 or 2 people with conceal-carry permits and training having weapons on them could have and would have made a difference in the outcome in all of the recent mass-shootings. It would certainly factor in someone considering such an attack.

Having said what I did, above, I do not advocate guns in the home. If they are broken down and locked up to prevent misuse, they are of no use for protection if someone breaks in. Just something else for the invader to steal (it's how many guns ger into criminal hands). If not broken down and locked up they are temptingly handy if one is extremely angry during an argument, or if one is as disturbed as the Lansa youth seems to have been.

Please look up the definition of assault rifle! Lanza did not use one! Had he modified or had a gunsmith modify the AR15 he used, which is illegal, he could have changed the rifle to meet the definition. At least educate yourself to understand what you're talking about before you call for a ban on something.

“Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” -Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790)

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Not so much a comment on guns as Kevin Kamenetz nakedly duplicitous, ego driven, look at me nature.

There are roughly 50,000 gun related deaths in the US each year. Smoking on the other hand causes 1 out of 5 deaths per year, roughly 450,000 annually.

Guess which one KK has stock in? Tobacco. Check out his disclosure form.

So guns = bad; make statement, score points.

Smoking = $$$, its legal and protected by law. How dare you suggest I am only playing politics.

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a victim.
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface.
Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control.
If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
Free men do not ask permission to bear
arms.
If you don’t know your rights you don’t have any.

Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

OK Liberals what are your thoughts on what gun laws should be?

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/new-mexico/58589d1266965893-do-you-own-gun-sign-2.jpg

One does not kill with a firearm, one kills with their heart.

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Liberals don't have thoughts! They are enslaved by government !

We already have more guns in America per capita than any country on the planet except Yemen. Doesn't seem to make us safer does it? Connecticut does have some of the strictest gun laws in the country and a mentally ill twenty year old still got his hands on an assault rifle. It absolutely is an assault rifle (the Bushmaster is the civilian version of the NATO assault rifle), just not fully automatic. A trained shooter may employ a technique called bump fire that closely simulates automatic rates of fire, up to 200 rounds per second.

As for shootings at ranges:
April 8, 2009 - a mother shot her son, then killed herself at a range in Casselberry, FL, a state where, by the way, they have over one milion concealed carry permits out. She rented the gun at the range even though she had a history of mental illness.
Sept 7, 2011 - Another murder-suicide at a range in Overland Park, KS. At least four other people have killed themselves at the "Bullet Hole" shooting range there.
October, 2011 - Joshua Duncan was found murdered at a shooting range in Mobile, AL.
May not be "mass" shootings DJ, but you may want to check the lanes next to you very carefully.

People you want to talk about crimes…. Can anyone believe what Kamentez said,
”…like other rights in the Constitution, that right is not absolute, and it is subject to reasonable limits."
What is next, you can only speak words that the government approves. Remember with freedom comes responsibility. Please don’t give up your freedom because of those who are not responsible. It is each individual’s responsibility to protect themselves and their freedom – don’t be fooled in thinking someone will be doing this for you. It is then that you become a slave.

So says the man that already has paid armed protection.
Where it is not illegal to make a threat on a citizen it is a felony to make a threat on an elected official.

Assault weapons - hell every weapon is an assault weapon. No automatics were involved. A semi automatic is a gun that ejects the shell and reloads for another trigger pull. An automatic is when you pull the trigger once and can shoot a burst of bullets an/or empty the weapon. The term was coined by congress.

Here tons of news stories of home owners that handled an immediate threat. What would have happen to these home owners if you liberals would take away their weapons?
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7jMcic9QKW4AVbJXNyoA?p=home%20owner%20kills%20intruder%20website&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701#r=fr2%3Dtime%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701%26p%3Dhome%2Bowner%2Bkills%2Bintruder%2Bwebsite%26btf%3Dm&rid=refiner3

I want our county exec to tell us how he is making our kids safe NOW!! Not some gun control nonsense plus he needs to re-read about how our Constitution works. Today getting 2/3 of the country to agree on anything is all but impossible with the polarized nation the politicians have created.

We need a citizen corps to secure our schools before a mentally ill person thinks they want to be remembered. Hey county council do you hear us?

Let's clarify what is defined as an "Assault Weapon"
In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:.

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.

This is a time for mourning and prayer for the families of Sandybrook Elementry and their community. Not for politicians and anti- gun lobbyist to use for their own agendas.

KK,
If you feel the need to ban semi auto weapons take a stance and get rid of your protection squad and become a normal unprotected taxpayer.

Lots of things can kill people. Drunk drivers kill more people each year with their cars than crazy people do with their guns. I could just as easily mow down 20+ kids with my car if I really wanted to. Cars aren't the issue. I think there is a line with weapons though. People shouldn't be allowed to own RPG's and hand grenades or drive around in tanks. Maybe an assault rifle crosses the line for some people and not others. I really don't think AR's are the issue with these mass shootings. A lot of these incidents are carried out with handguns and shotguns.

It is really that no matter by what means, murder and carnage is wrong. Before guns carnage was exacted by the sheer numbers of people set on each other. If you can only fire one arrow at a time then you had 1000 men line up in an army and fire all at the same time. What saddens me is that we don’t address ones motivation to murder which drives them to seek out the most efficient means available to them in at what ever time in history they aspired to exact murder. Then of course those who could be murdered to seek the same tools to protect themselves. I generally like Chief Johnson but if he has felt this way all along he should have stood up far then and had a press conference day one on the job. The same with Kevin K. I am not saying I agree with them or disagree with them but on the issue of integrity if one has considered political timing as a part when they speak up they are not leaders they are just people who happen to be in charge. Few too many in our world don’t know the difference between the two.

A MUST READ for all those with simple minds thinking simple solutions are the answer.

Assault weapons ban had no effect on crime. US Dept of Justice Report.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/173405.pdf

"The ban has failed to reduce the average number of victims per gun murder incident or multiple gunshot wound victims."

"Gun bans and gun crime Evidence is mixed about the effectiveness of previous gun bans. Federal restrictions enacted in 1934 on the ownership of fully automatic weapons (machine guns) appear to have been quite successful based
on the rarity with which such guns are used in crime.1 Washington, D.C.’s restrictive
handgun licensing system, which went into effect in 1976, produced a drop
in gun fatalities that lasted for several years after its enactment.2 Yet, State and
local bans on handguns have been found to be ineffective in other research.3"

They should have spoke up sooner the timing of this no matter how well intended is dirty. Better they should have had someone lead the charge.

The simple fact is, unless there is an uprising in this country similar to the civil war, the government is never going to take away all the guns. Even then, the government didn't make it illegal to own weapons. Whether you think they should or not, it just will never happen. They are too ingrained in the fabric of this country. LIke it or not, there are also always going to be crazy people. So, if we know that they are going to be a part of our lives, then lets work together to figure out how to mitigate the risks. We live with cars and we live with alchohol. Sometimes they end up mixing when they shouldn't, but we don't ban either. We have just taken steps to try to prevent people from driving drunk. Let do the same for guns.

The DOJ report also noted the ramped up production and SALE of the soon to be restricted firearms. With firearm sales at all time highs over the past 4 years and violent crime DOWN nationally, banning any would see increased production and sales in anticipation of the ban. Is that what you want to face?

For all wanting to be not left out in the cold.

Jan 5 & 6, 2013
Frederick Fairgrounds
Exit 55 & 56 Off I-70 Frederick, MD

Show Open to the Public
Saturday - 9:00 am to 5:00 pm
Sunday - 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Admission is $8.00

Feb 16 & 17, 2013

Show Place Arena (P.G. County)
Route 4 & 301 Upper Marlboro, MD

Show Open to the Public
Saturday - 9:00 am to 5:00 pm
Sunday - 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Admission is $8.00
Kids under 12 FREE with a paying adult

February 23 & 24, 2013
Howard county Fairgrounds
Exit 80 off I-70 West Friendship MD

Show Open to the Public
Saturday - 9:00 am to 5:00 pm
Sunday - 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Admission is $8.00
Kids under 12 FREE with a paying adult

April 6 & 7, 2013

Frederick Fairgrounds
Exit 55 & 56 Off I-70 Frederick, MD

Show Open to the Public
Saturday - 9:00 am to 5:00 pm
Sunday - 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
Admission is $8.00

Another interesting tid-bit I discovered while looking into in these situations..... The shooter(s) in these atrosities has/have taken their own life as soon as they were confronted with potential armed resistance. The police have gotten there after the bulk of the carnage is over.

We need better mental health care for people at a younger age. You want wait for them to totally fall apart and then say, "oh we should have given him more help." The signs are there and when they are noticed, even to a small degree, that's the time to get the person help. Stop waiting for the "big sign" that there's a problem. Just read what his mother said about him needing help.
So make tougher gun laws if you feel like that's what you need to do but improve the broken mental health care system at the same time.

What part of “shall not be infringed” do you
not understand?
The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one
yesterday.
Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Politicians. ~ Cooper
You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
Dialing 911 a “government sponsored Dial a
Prayer”.
Assault is a behavior, not a device.
Criminals love gun control “it makes their
jobs safer”.
If guns cause crime, why do we want policemen to have them?
Enforce the “gun control laws” in place, don’t make more.
If you remove the people’s right to bear arms,
you create slaves.

If you remove the people’s right to bear arms,
you create slaves.
The American Revolution wouldn’t have happened with Gun Control.
If you know how many guns you own, you
don’t own enough guns.

What part of as part of a well regulated militia do you not understand?

“My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” — Thomas Jefferson

There are many things to consider. Some guns are purchased without any checks. They wind up "unfortunately " in the hands of those who shouldn't have them whether they were bought legally or otherwise.The public "themselves" should be responsible enough to insure that another tragedy "that just occurred " doesn't happen again. Whatever preventative actions the officials make will probably be met with questions but any action is appreciated.

I do think that regardless of what side of the debate you are on it probably does make sense for people to realize that the military M-16 rifle and the AR -15 are just model numbers. They all fire a
very small bullet .223 it is not much bigger then- in fact, it pretty much is a souped up 22 meaning it has a lot of power behind it but not a lot of lead. It is so small that the 223 is the smallest bullet you can use to hunt dear. It is considered a varmit calibar. The entire principle behind these guns was to put down a lot of bullets inexpensively seeking effect by numbers not precision. It is as are all guns deadly but it’s appearance does not make it somehow more deadly. Just like a steak knife that we use to cut up animal flesh and never think twice about, is every bit as deadly as a knife whose appearance lets you know it was intended as a weapon. I do think that guns are going to have to be reconciled in the public mind the same way they reconcile a kitchen full of knives whose danger never crosses your mind. It really is a issue of mentality and it is clear that the appearance of this gun was not meant to appeal to someone as just a gun of sport, it is to have the appeal of a weapon. Other then that it is not anymore or less deadly in and of itself as a gun then a bayonet to a butchers knife.

It's a shame that this tragedy in Conn.has brought out the "advocates"for gun control.Most would be happy if the 2nd amendment was erased from the Constitution.Those who call them assault weapons are completely off base,never have I seen tactical rifles sold as such.The 2nd amendment is like any other amendment & you can't pick & choose what ones you would like to abolish because then they will come after the rest of our freedoms.A quote from James Madison "An unarmed man is a subject,An armed man is a citizen".

Does anybody else notice that these past shootings have occurred in "Gun Free Zones"? It's true and did nothing to stop these murders. Now the antis want to go after so called assault weapons. I happen to own 3, does that make me an evil person? I have never been in trouble, not

Does anybody else notice that these past shootings have occurred in "Gun Free Zones"? It's true and they did nothing to stop these murders. Now the antis want to go after so called assault weapons. I happen to own 3, does that make me an evil person? I use them to hunt deer, why, because I can. They serve the purpose. I have never been in trouble, not even a traffic ticket, never tried any drugs, and yet you want to strip me of my rights. Unfair? Of course it is, I don't try and strip you of yours. Banning so called assault weapons and high capacity magazines will do nothing. Sick people are going to kill no matter what. Gun, knife, car, bomb, anything. They will do it. Don't blame the gun, don't blame the bullet, blame the person, but there is no need to take it out on millions of innocent Americans.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt

Steak knife and a sword are both blades... 3006 with a 5 round box and a 100 round betamag ar15 are both rifles. What things are designed for make a huge difference in what they are capable for. Guns made to kill mass amounts of people enable people to kill mass amounts of people. Enough of the horrible over used quotes and start to think for yourself. Many of the "sons of liberty" posting can do a great job shooting targets but leading an insurgency against the us military is not something they train for. Besides look at world events, car and suicide bombs are the weapon of choice.

Btw steve u still missed the well regulated part. The bill of rights garauntees the the federal government cant infinge on a state militias ability. Just like citizens cant have surface to air rockets but the maryland guard can.

Yes i disagree with the way the current supreme court views the 2nd amendment but hey i am American and i can voice my say. And it looks like lots of other Americans are doing the same.

Lets bring to referendum that Elected officials need to have background checks and drug testing and we'll see how that flies. Interesting how Congress, The House of Representatives and The Senate make and pass laws upon us yet find it in their hearts to exempt themselves.

I've also never been assaulted by my so called assault rifle. It has never assaulted anyone else. Unfortunately it doesn't hold "clips" like most antis think. You antis crack me up, you into a huge spiel about "clips" and so called assault weapons don't have clips!

Experts even have their differences.

Conn. shooter's mental illness not indicator of violence, Little Falls expert says

http://www.northjersey.com/news/183721681_Conn__shooter_s_mental_illness_not_indicator_of_violence__Little_Falls_expert_says.html

Studies have shown that most forms of mental illness are not associated with violence of any kind much less the kind evil we see here.

http://depts.washington.edu/mhreport/facts_violence.php

"Fact Sheets
Facts About Mental Illness and Violence
Fact 1: The vast majority of people with mental illness are not violent.
Here is what researchers say about the link between mental illness and violence:

- "Although studies suggest a link between mental illnesses and violence, the contribution of people with mental illnesses to overall rates of violence is small, and further, the magnitude of the relationship is greatly exaggerated in the minds of the general population (Institute of Medicine, 2006)."

- "…the vast majority of people who are violent do not suffer from mental illnesses (American Psychiatric Association, 1994)."

- "The absolute risk of violence among the mentally ill as a group is very small. . . only a small proportion of the violence in our society can be attributed to persons who are mentally ill (Mulvey, 1994)."

-"People with psychiatric disabilities are far more likely to be victims than perpetrators of violent crime (Appleby, et al., 2001). People with severe mental illnesses, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or psychosis, are 2 ½ times more likely to be attacked, raped or mugged than the general population (Hiday, et al.,1999)."

To Sanchez:The ar in Ar-15 stands for Armalite Rifle.Colt owns the name for it.

Okay, 2nd Amendment fans - let's get down to the nitty-gritty:

If a law is passed that requires you to turn in (for a fee) your extended magazines (and other names for devices that allow more than, say, 10 rounds without reloading) AND register all weapons that are specifically named in the law - would you obey the law? Presume that such law has or would be upheld by SCOTUS.

No what-ifs and how manys - just a simple yes or no regarding your acceptance and compliance with the law.

My bad, other posters are correct and I mistakenly typed in the rate of fire at 200 rounds per second when a trained shooter uses it in the bump fire mode. FYI, it is actually 200 rounds per minute. Fully automatic, estimated by combatrifle.net to be about 600 to 800 rounds per minute depending on the length of the barrel, etc.

The point is, it is way too much weapon than is needed for any kind of recreational shooting or hunting. It does have only one purpose and that is to kill and maim the most people in the shortest period of time.

As for the specious argument that a couple of people with concealed carry permits in the school would have prevented the tragedy, keep in mind that Florida just issued its millionth CCW permit and has the fourth highest rate of violent crime in the nation.

I agree with what kk said. What bothers me is that our county exec is simply a grandstander. No one in Annapolis or Washington cares what he thinks and I think that his exploitation of this tragedy is sickening. There have been gun deaths for many many years and only now he wants to make a stand. Absolute grandstanding. Mr exec you should be ashamed. And this from someone who agrees with your point. Stop pretending anynlegislatormcares what you think.

As with anything the government wants to regulate the Devil is in the details. There are significant differences between "Assault Rifles" and "Assault Weapons". Mr. Kamenetz calls for bans and controls on "Assault Weapons" and uses the AK-47 as the posterchild for "Assault Weapons" because of its popularity as a war weapon. But in reality the AK-47, AR-15 rifles represent a small portion of the weapons in the "Assault Weapons" definitions.
Here's an example: If you were to take a commonly used semi-auto shotgun, say the Remington 1187, that is commonly used for hunting small game like rabbit, squirrel pheasant and such remove the factory stock and forearm and replace it with a stock that has a telescoping butt and pistol grip it now is an "Assault Weapon" as defined in the last assault weapon ban. Changing these items does nothing to capacity or shooting performance of the shotgun. It changes the way the shotgun looks. Stocks like this are sometimes used to accommodate people with physical disabilities. So to those folks that don't understand why gun owners are concerned about the Government adding more regulation to gun ownership in the interest of public safety I point out these are the same people that brought you Homeland Security, The Patriot Act and the new regulations in airports for the betterment of "public safety". How much freedom did we sacrifice after the fear instilled by 9/11 and how much safer are we with them?

It's a little pathetic seeing liberal politicians tripping over each other trying to enact new gun control laws in the wake of this horrible tragedy. Sadly they see this as an opportunity to put in place restrictive laws that frankly won't do anything to prevent future madmen from killing innocent people. Liberals have always seen themselves as being the most compassionate among us and now they are trying to show it here. I think every decent person is sick over what happened in CT, it's just that some of us don't believe violating the right to bear arms is the way to show it.

As i am truly sorry for the actions of some one who we will never know why he did what he did and the loss of life of young lives is horendous. Again this was the action of a person who made a choice not an inanimate object. People use other weapons every day and hurt and mame people. When do we stop blaming inanimate objects for individual actions. Mr kamenitz does not speak for me and i do not agree with his veiws or politics. The second amendment which people like to forget about because most of those people for get what it was made for. It is there to protect the people from an oppresive government.These are the same people who would never understand to give there homes or life for a beleif to protect this country because they have grown up in an age where the government thinks for them and gives them a pacifyer when they need it, these people are called intitlled citizens. Strart looking at why people do what they do instead of how they do it. Baltimore county can not handle the gun laws on the books know how do you expect to deal with it with more laws. Are you willing to pay double your taxes.

Kamenetz stops hort. Jim Johnson's nose covered in brown.

We have strict laws about drugs - they do work. Criminals seem to obtain them just fine. Stricter laws would only affect those who choose to abide by them leaving them vulnerable to the criminals. As others have said, guns are harmless without someone to pull the trigger. Do we restrict the sale of cars just because a percentage of the population chooses to drink and drive? How about we tighten up enforcement on laws that we have that impact public safety every day... You know like keeping thugs in jail who commit gun crimes instead of releasing them early or on technicalities.

Bad as it is these days these are far safer times then when the Bill of rights was drafted and the times then or now do not make them less applicable or worthy of being upheld or vulnerable somehow as inadequate to things unforseen. The fact is they were written to address the timeless human condition not the times. I believe in three days at just one balttle of the civil war and a country so young we were only into our 16th president that more then 21,000 people were Mia, wounded or killed at antietum. The time where just as savage if not more and the life was far tougher. It is true they may have been guided by a different sense of right and wrong but there was way more wrong in those times then now.

Wow i guess it makes it ok if mass shootings are done by guns if the "correct" terminology is used. Still a gun made to kill many people. An ar15 that shoots 3 rounds per pull is such a different gun than a semi auto... Maybe if you ar using it to lay down cover fire but not if you are shooting unarmed people in an enclosed area.

No but a m16 will and that is an assault rifle. The only difference between the ar and the m is the third option on the safety switch... Yes i know they fire fullauto too. But the idea is people want to play the name game when the know they are playing from a position of disadvantage. Ar, ak, m16, mp5 (semi or full auto) they are all made to carry as much fire power a person can towards (aka assault) an opponent. They are not made for hunting and are not as accurate as target rifles. They are made to kill humans thats why the military, police, and people who shoot up places use them. Sorry to make sense...

But this wasnt court and there you can explain what you mean so people dont take one liitle thing and blow it out of proportion. And apelling mustakes do happen in court so far i have yet to see a case where someone got off because of it. Or maybe you could back up you claim?

When Kamenetz and Johnson give up their armed police protection - which of course they will not do - or they provide me and my family with the same protection, then I will consider their position on the matter. Until then I will exercise my right to protect myself.

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I think everybody should be issued a gun that way when things like this happen the innocent can protect themselves you think any of these mass shootings would happen if everybody had a gun

Rawlings Blake detail: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/maryland/i-team/Executive-protection-costs-in-Baltimore-rising-amid-budget-deficits/-/10640252/16954492/-/item/0/-/flyt9dz/-/index.html
O'Liar: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-03/local/35623264_1_executive-protection-unit-greg-shipley-political-purposes
Can't find anything on KK yet but it is safe to say all high ranking elected officials have security details paid by the taxpayer

Texas Democratic Party leader, blogger calls for shooting NRA members.
http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-democratic-party-leader-blogger-calls-for-shooting-nra-members

Lloyd are you a retard?

Pictures from the NRA protest rally

https://plus.google.com/photos/106823861250641198375/albums/5822989862996327537?authkey=CL6g9pCa8aSliQE

WOW!!! All of 20 idiots showed up!

Meanwhile in the real world, "At the close of business on the day of Obama's inauguration, the price of Ruger stock (Ticker: RGR) was $5.48 per share. At the end of the trading day on December 17, 2012, the price of the stock closed at $44.00 per share; an increase of 703 percent in less than four years.

But, Ruger isn't the only gun manufacturer that has seen an explosion in its stock value. Smith & Wesson shares (Ticker: SWHC) have increased 253 percent since Obama moved into the White House.

The price of SWHC was $2.45 per share when Obama was sworn in; it closed at $8.65 per share today, December 17, 2012."

Ohhh, THIS is why I should have voted, now I get it. I think these 2 stiff's can cry all they want but they are not taking anything away from us, and they dont speak for me. Most gun owners are stand up and responsible citizens, why would you take right's away from the good wholesome people.

Also, you IDIOTS, an AR or an AK is no different than any other rifle. No more powerful or more dangerous than a bolt action rifle. You can fire a bolt action very fast, and reload quickly too. These morons do not even know/understand firearms yet one of them is a cop. TYPICAL!

My suggestion is go get urself a stick now. Before you get caught in a riot full of b-mo city trash,and there is 75 people in your yard coming in and the liberal's have banned all firearm's and steak knives.

Gun deaths in this country are absurd. NYC was in a state of shock when on a day in late November, no one was actually shot and killed. Ban right to carry. This isn't the Wild West. No, it won't end gun deaths. Sick to death iof the gun group's bizarre arguments about guns not killing. Sick of arguments about psych screenings catching people who are off balance. Nonsense! Pea shooters don't kill, people do. Oh wait, pea shooters just plain don't have the capacity to kill. 27 dead and still they cling to their guns, thinking that the guns will protect them. More likely that it's their own guns will cause their own deaths.

All this talk made me order one today.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=214
She is a beauty isn't she

Frank if it does I have only one person to blame and that's myself for letting it get out of my hands.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

That's too much money to pay for that junk.

Steve, Junk is the eye of the spender. Buying American weapons keeping American's at work. Its a win win.... Steve were does your money go when not blogging? Now I have to figure how to write it off as a tax deduction. LOL

Okay NRA freaks - write Dick's off of your favorite places to shop for shoes, hoodies. "Modern Sporting Rifles":

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/justice/connecticut-dicks-guns/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Jane exposed the abuse and cost of the protection. Maybe KK hasn't done that yet.

Lloyd,
Take a deep breath walk away from your computer your becoming delusional.

How did this thread get turned around from protection of kids in school to protection of the stupid county officials? HUH? Who gives a damn about them?

CBS News: ‘Fast and Furious’ Gun Found At Site Where Mexican Beauty Queen Killed
by: Sharyl Attkisson
"A gun found at the scene of a shootout between a Mexican drug cartel and soldiers where a beauty queen died was part of the botched “Fast and Furious” operation, CBS News reports.

Authorities had said that Maria Susana Flores Gamez was likely used as a human shield and that an automatic rifle had been found near her body after the Nov. 23 shootout.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, tells CBS News that the Justice Department did not notify Congress that a Fast and Furious firearm was found at the scene in Sinaloa.

CBS News learned the Romanian AK-47-type WASR-10 rifle found near her body was purchased by Uriel Patino at an Arizona gun shop in 2010. Patino is a suspect who allegedly purchased 700 guns while under the ATF’s watch.
The “Fast and Furious” operation was launched in 2009 to catch trafficking kingpins, but agents lost track of about 1,400 of the more than 2,000 weapons involved."

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/18/cbs-news-fast-and-furious-gun-found-at-site-where-mexican-beauty-queen-killed/

LOL "Fast and Ffft" That was yesterday's conspiracy theory.

"SACRAMENTO (CBS/AP) – The nation’s largest teachers’ pension fund says it will review its holdings after being criticized for having an investment in the manufacturer of an assault rifle used in last week’s Connecticut school massacre.

California State Teachers’ Retirement System spokesman Michael Sicilia said Tuesday that the $155 billion pension system is making sure its investments comply with the fund’s own social and ethical standards.

The fund invested $600 million in the private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management, which owns gun maker Freedom Group International. Cerberus said it will sell its holdings in the manufacturer of the rifle used to kill 20 schoolchildren and six adults at a school in Newtown, Conn."

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/12/18/california-teachers-retirement-plan-invested-in-gun-manufacturer/

Profiting at the same time as calling for a ban. More hypocritical buttholes.

'When SECONDS count, a cop takes MINUTES'! Ill keep my gun, thank you!!!

Ok by me on the legilstation. But where has the leadership been on this for years? Oh yes, we need gay marriage legislation, transgender legislation, tax increase to anyone still making money, a new casino.
Add to that no Pepsi products in Howard County and the Redskins/Ravens jersey foolishness.
What an active legislature!

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For the guys slugging it out about wether the county excutive has a protection detail. They do and have had one since rasmussen. It has been a three man team of county officers for when ever the excutive does public engagements.

i predicted an elementry school shooting after the Perry Hall highschool shooting but all i got was im a jesus freak. I said after the highschool shooting that one of the big causes was not having Jesus taught in school. This was the reason i put my child in private school because what is taught there is way different then public and i grew up in public so i know its not good. Our state stood by and voted Gay marriage and gambling so that tells you more and more of this will happen. I am sure all have prayed but i know all do not go to church or even believe so again why pray if you don't believe. If you support Gay marriage etc and don't support Jesus in school then the blood of these children will remain with you forever. You want change? Then bring Jesus back to public school.

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I have worked for a former County Executive and he was picked up at his home every morning in a SUV Suburban type vehicle by a driver who was assigned to him this driver was a BCoPD. I also worked in his house. If the County Exec no longer has a Police detail it is new to me. I intend to be Running for Exec and have had several people all tongue in cheek yet not say to remeber them for that detail on the off chance I get in.

Even the First Amendment has limits that are meant to prevent undue harm to the innocent.

By the way, your liberty can be threatened far more effectively with a laptop than a gun these days.

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As for a list of profanities banned, think of the list of words you can't say on television/radio or their variants and perhaps anything you'd feel uncomfortable using in front of young children or your mom. (An actual list here would be a violation of the terms, no?)

You probably mean spelling skills but your point is not without merit and of course there is staff correct all that. The sad part is these guys are excellent readers but couldnt formulate anything worth saying on their own. As far as spelling vs writing skills I have written a e-book that has had thousands of reads ( for what that is worth) it is if nothing else well written. As far as speaking you can google me giving testimony addressing the state senate and the house. There may be many reasons I don't have a chance but ability to communicate will not be one of them. Have you ever heard the current exec speak?

Mad Man the house boy gig has made me sensitive and understanding don't you want that in an Exec?

See ya. Bryan P. Sears threads are slanted.

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Instead of trying to memorize all that, you might boil it down to three main principles: “Keep it clean,” “Don’t try to trick people,” and “Treat others as you’d like to be treated.” Easy, right?

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Honeygo Hall: You're correct. I was unaware of the meaning behind one of the terms and its been removed. Again, I quote from the terms: "Instead of trying to memorize all that, you might boil it down to three main principles: “Keep it clean,” “Don’t try to trick people,” and “Treat others as you’d like to be treated.” Easy, right?"

In marketing it is called, creating a market and then marketing to it. In political terms we see it when many of the social problems we have are created by politicians so as to give the appearance of resolving something when they address it with a bill. In the same way, don’t put so much faith in the mental health treatment as the end all be all. Many of the crazy things people do are normal. Read that a couple of times.

In the end they diagnose normal behavior call it a syndrome and then sell you on the idea they are treating something. I don’t need a google search to prove that ,I can just submit the growth of the mental health industry to their cure rate. Pushing mental health treatment without understanding its overall dependability at really having a deep affect on troubled people is as hollow of an approach as the gun laws KK and JJ are pushing.

Geoffery I have no interest in being a politician ( so to speak)
KK is in not or are his predecessors not because of the man but because of the parties they front The idea that we vote for people who are perfect is exactly why we are in the quandary we are. They have Santa Claus Syndrome, they see gifts under the tree and they believe in Santa. I know that an elected official is to be the steward an when people realize that , they will realize that they are Santa (taxes) The only real tool of resolution is honesty not debate (see thread). You can outwit another man but regardless of your IQ it is impossible to out honest someone. Even Einstein can’t out honest the least among us. There is not one elected official from either party that is in a format that will allow them to be honest. In the end no one is perfect but the parties are setup for a higher rate of failure at public expense. Even a little more honesty would be substantial. Like children we vote out of fear. In the end one has to ask themselves what sacrifice are you willing to take to do something about it. If looking like an idiot or keeping my mouth shut so as not to look like one was a concern of mine I will grant you I should have stopped long ago. There is a saying if you go right up to a women and tell her exactly what you want you are going to get smacked in the face a lot . You are also going to get a lot of what want. I don't fear freedom of speach, using it or judgement or not getting elected

As for the gun issue. I hold in my way of thinking that we don’t take away peoples guns but that we regulate the manner in which they must maintain, store and secure their guns. There are gun that are purely weapons and I don’t think they should be taken but I support that the standard be elevated as well as maintain a cogent distinction between a weapon-ized firearm. one modified from the intentions of the manufacturer ( sawed off shoot gun) a fire arm manufactured as a weapon and a shooting stick. All equally deadly mind you. You can use a armory concept in written law without having a physical armory location for citizens. Hunter do it every year and don't even realize they are subject to a armory concept.

When a Police Officer can be at my door in seconds then I will not have to be an Armed Citizen.Maryland Gun Laws are very strict, VERY! When we can stop the wasteful spending and put a Guard at each School to protect these kids from any type of harm ,we'll be able to have some peace of mind.And by all means if you do own a Firearm and you have kids, keep the ammo separate, hidden, and lock the weapon UP!!

Geoffery, I am not sure what you mean. but I fully or fool-ly intend to run. I am wrong all the time and their are no shortage of people willing to tell me that. I call them advisors Political people call them adversaries. By the end of this thread I will be better for it and may even have to contradict my own views from the begining. Mad Man my family just released this Monday 12-17-12 the 911 call out to the press. This thread is about guns but the call will give everyone a sense of tragedy that victims endure needlessly in planes, trains, guns automobiles and so on
http://blog.dogsbite.org/

8:15 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Geoffery, I am not sure what you mean. but I fully or fool-ly intend to run. I am wrong all the time and their are no shortage of people willing to tell me that. I call them advisors Political people call them adversaries. By the end of this thread I will be better for it and may even have to contradict my own views from the begining. Mad Man my family just released this Monday 12-17-12 the 911 call out to the press. This thread is about guns but the call will give everyone a sense of tragedy that victims endure needlessly in planes, trains, guns automobiles and so on
http://blog.dogsbite.org/

Chang you make excellent points in as much that most people do not understand the difference between Policing and Enforcement.
Policing is within the budget but enforcement an animal completely connected to the limits of a budget and the social demand to do something about the crime du jour. However that as always been the case since day one in Government not Regan.
Romanization times gone past is as dangerous as revisionist history and maybe semantic.

Being taught religion in school has nothing to do with it. It is the irresponsible parenting that is taking place that has everything to do with it. Majority of parents think their children are perfect and can't do wrong, even if they are on video camera committing a crime they remain in denial for some reason. This is the reaction when parent are too busy working 60 hour weeks to pay for their personal belongings to "keep up with the Jones" instead of monitoring their children and spending quality time with them. I personally would not want my child in a school that teaches religion. The number of people that pray on Sunday and swear by the bible then act like crooked fools Monday through Saturday says it all for me. Thanks but no thanks.

According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, from 2007 to 2011, Maryland averages 4 deaths by rifle every year. Tell me again, why are our politicians so up in arms about this?

Why aren't they combating the real firearms problem, which is drug and gang violence?

I am a gun owner and I don’t know if this is a good bill or not (likely not) but I am completely for limiting the number of weapons someone can own and the type and amount of ammunitions they can store. Including sporting guns which I believe also should have a limit on the number one person can own before requiring a special permit.. As well as and/or a combination limit . of the total weapons and firearms and munitions one individual can process . If the military sees fit to GI- allocate the number and type of weapon per your MOS along with the number of rounds and still make you an effective combatant then it makes sense that the point at which your personal armory exceeds you ability to utilize it you are fooling yourself. We lose rights in this country because we first have groups of individuals and people who act unreasonably coupled to a government that is just as unreasonable in it’s response to them. The end result is both sides ruin it for the rest of the reasonalbe society.

Mad Man, What I was shooting for (pun intended) is that in the military they do not have access to all of the weaponry or their individual rifle unless they are in a war zone. It also comes to mind that there are rules of engagement and that the individual themselves are government military property (once they get out then they return to being just government property- no pun intended) and while they are in the service and that court system they give up many rights for the privilege of defending themselves and me.

Speaking only from my experiences in talking to people in deer camps, they speak about the second amendment right from the perspective of people trying to take away that right as the quickest way for the government to then- us left defenseless, take away the remaining rights. It appears these folks see themselves as an individual armed and capable if need be of holding off government troops, with their weapons. Or they are preparing for the phantom race war. Without operating in a militia which is a group they have no chance. So there is the issue as I literally believe it implies of “individual rights” and the reality for the individual comes down to defending oneself against crime, one on one long enough for the Police to get there. If people want a arsenal beyond that goal of individual against individual protection in my view they are talking about war of some kind and they are combatants whether they wear a uniform or carrya RPG in a robe.

Dealers and collectors I believe already have restrictions and permits. I am not aware - either, as you pointed out for me of any rights that have been taken. Spirit of the thread I plead.

Mad Man. No I never served in the US Military

. No I am certain I am not an idiot, but then if I am I couldn't know that. why do you ask? Lieing as in the presumed need for me to lie was your approval? You’re probably a bit older then me. Did you see combat action when you were overseas? I have several family members and friends who have as well and they don't agree all the time either. Interestingly enough they could make several new worlds with what I don’t know but I doubt once educated there is very much I couldn’t know. I also support bringing back the draft because I believe they stopped it because after Korea these veteran parents started to have questions about their kids going to Vietnam. People started to realize they were being lied to. I believe the government got rid of the draft because by the mid 70’s the government knew that if people understood they could take anybodies child they would likely have so much resistance they could no longer conduct these half assed wars. We live in a world today that says hey I am proud of you for serving but I am not taking my day off of work to protest or look into it further as long as it does not affect my child. The government knows they would be shut down with a draft. Counter wise - realistically and strategically this is how the government is made to stand down. Good luck with a militia. Now most people never observed why we won the gulf war and got bogged down the next time.Iranians stood down in92

Caveat does not = sign for + confined to range + on military base + safety officer present does not (only) or Caveat. Spirit of the thread

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

BTW I forgot to say your welcome Bryan.

Mad Man,
Sorry I thought when you said - only and caveat you meant singular. I realize now you mean caveats. I focused on your (list) of (caveat) and decided they had a cumulative spirit, seeming like controls and regulations on your individual access rights to a designated safety area purpose built and secured with restrictive protocols to allow you the exercise of your rights. I apologize when I said “ if you ain’t first your last I was drunk when I said that. However even if I am completely wrong your fun loving towel smaking derogatory sentences aside everything you have posted about protocols is semantic to my original post.

Unbelievable how this discusion went from gun control to a bunch of people being email tough people and calling each other names. You are the reason our society is slipping in to the downward spiral. How about staying with the topic.

Brian i do not agree with the patch sensering statements made , this one of the true reason i feel the media manipulates the facts instead of reporting the truth.

I was too chicken to join and glad I didn't get drafted. That said being an idiot I would have been more likely to have had no other options in the military then to be a front line troop. So I was less inclined to be brave and never took the chance to serve or got the oppurtunity to serve and glory grab. I am somewhat of a puss I guess.

      Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. – Thomas Paine

      Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!   -Patrick Henry to the Virginia House of Burgesses, 1775

"When I held the gun in my hand I felt a tremendous surge of power, and suddenly I knew how GOD must feel when he holds a gun."

~ Homer Simpson

Does anybody on this thread know or can they post what the actual percentage of people who are either man enough to fulfill their draft obligation ,brave enough to volunteer or are persuing career education objectives in US military and even get shipped out actually see combat action?

Too bad those railing against such an idea are ignorant of the facts and seem unwilling to learn the facts since it would destroy their emotional reactions to these stories.

New York Times N.R.A. Envisions ‘a Good Guy With a Gun’ in Every School
December 21, 2012

"Nationwide, at least 23,000 schools — about one-third of all public schools — already had armed security on staff as of the most recent data, for the 2009-10 school year, and a number of states and districts that do not use them have begun discussing the idea in recent days. "

Merry Christmas to all and to all stockings full of rational thought and peace to your fellow man.

I know the thread is about gun control and It was me who brought the militaries manner in which they secure weapons and munitions in a armory as what I stand by as the best way for us to allow people to exercise their second amendment right and stay on topic. The tangent is not something I have yet been able to understand in terms of my original pos other then my credibility as a man in as much that the military aside I still support what I stated as my view for the best way to manage rights in concert with responsibility to those rights. I am fairly certain that what I said about the manner in which weapons are secured in military bases is 100% correct but even if 100% wrong, I would like a critique on what I posted as far as it pertains to a method of prevention of gun crimes and injuries. My question about the draft
Is my participation in the tangent to establish how irrelevant my inadequacies as a man are( it may be just my points that are inadequate) to my points and that I am intrigued to now know do people still register for selective service? I did when I graduated in 1978 but then it was only men. If they still register today is it men and women? If it is only still men then exponentially speaking that would support my point about half assed wars and citizen involvement if we went back to a draft or it included women in a draft how would people react to war.

Gun laws don't work .The criminal killed the two firemen should put an end to the arguement.This guy kills someone with an axe then gets a gun ? It doesn't matter what type. If he had a regular deer gun with a scope he probably would have killed more. Before you all go liberal on me an inexperienced shooter with a regular 30 -30 and scope can be much more deadly .The semi auto are not as accurate they spray.Yes I have fired them both at range. This sick SOB was sitting in wait this time the type weapon probably saved lives and as usual he turned it on himself. I don't know the answer but I think it would be a lot more credible if we tried to identify killers and also enforcing laws on books. This guy was not legal to operate a BB gun.Why say were ending future tragedies by making up gun laws? How about truth therapists, prescribed drugs,probation enforcement and mentally ill .This is not a dem, repub arguement it is a do something NOW debate.You can't eliminate the fact there are more than three guns for every adult American only about 1/4 own them .All gun control does is increase gun sales.

Current gun control is obviously a blatant failure...why attempt to add more failure at this point..?
Proven failure can't possibly be the solution...guns will never be effectively controlled in America...it's un-American.

The general belief is guided by applying the fundamentals of risk assement and the principle of diminished return to those individuals whose stated concern about the 2nd amendment right are to protect themselves from a hostile government. That objective would be war and can only be accomplished by a consensus number of people with guns not one person with a unlimited number of guns. All else in practical application is to protect oneself against criminal intruders. Accumulation of guns and ammo beyond the individuals ability to actually utilize and equally secure them only creates a greater public hazard then anything it was their stated purpose can preserve. The question is who are the mentally ill ? Those who unilaterally declare war and use a weapon of war on the easiest and least resistant targets to make a statement or those who respond unrealistically to a phantom threat by keeping so many guns and ammo beyond reason they supply those who would use them for their actual purpose- killing people. Traditionally this kind of thinking was harmless involving your heirs discarding 100 loaves of stale bread, 500 expired can goods and 2 tons of soggy toilet at the landfill after Grand Pop dies.
Of course I am the only one left in our deer camp that still uses a 30 30 with open sights.

I must go back to work but please picture me saying this through a 4 " diameter PVC Pipe "Mad Man I am your father

Tony, I am going to vote for you just because of that post.

If a person wants a rifle or shotgun for hunting, it's one thing. If he or she wants a handgun for personal protection, that;s another thing. If either of them is secured in a gun safe with a trigger lock to keep the kids from harming themselves or someone else, and someone breaks into your home, neither weapon is going to do you much good. If the intruder finds them, they could do you, or someone else, much harm. That said, I oppose restrictions on owning weapons - as I oppose most of what the Department of Homeland INsecurity is doing as it gradually transforms itself into a new Gestapo.

How about this. We charge 150% sales tax on every gun, $300 registration fee per year on every gun, ban assault weapons, ban ammo clips with more than 10 rounds on all guns, require background checks for both criminal and mental records, require a training course, close the loop hole for gun shows, require all weapons be kept in an armory to be checked out by the owners and put armed police in every school paid for by the taxes and registration fee and I will support the distortions of the Second Amendment.

Mad Man you are the best I enjoy your wit and you far from stupid but there is the irony that your post speaks speaks to they don't do background checks for IQ

I am in much trouble if these are things I would need to be adequately prepared to hold public office. High School education, no college GPA 2.0 Job self employed house painter and I wrote a e-book and have influenced the change of two state laws in my life time. The first at age 18 the last at age 52. And don’t think I don’t know that my bleak resume sounds more like Hitler then a fairly stable family man.

J Brown Jewelers on Reisterstown Road has a Balt Co Police substation INSIDE the store. Various 7-11's have small desks in them with the BCPD name on them and a phone.

If jewelery and donuts are worth protecting why not put these small substation desks INSIDE county schools? Police can use the desks to complete paperwork and do other police chores that can be done outside the main precinct office.

What's good for J Brown's inventory should be good enough for our children.

Where do you start?

FIFA and taking guns from law abiding citizens is the answer? By doing that you have taken the foundation from the dam

The networks are part of the problem. They immortalize these idiots when reporting these news stories. Maybe if we left the nut bags name and background out of the story maybe it could reduce one or two crazed people. Second doctors need to open up the local and federal authorities with possible crazed killers and forget the doctor patient confidentiality . Finally I am a firm believer of the second amendment but I don't see why a citizen would need a 30 round magazine for protection or sport. I can do just damage with multiple smaller magazine.

I guess you were unaware that the Hitler reference was attached to me in a state and then the subsequent national issue in many blogs from the animal lobby. It does not concern me at all. I really can’t add anything new to your question that I have not already stated in my position on gun control. I certainly will answer any new questions here or on another thread as best I can.

Since all new agencies have a reputation of fabricating news should they be held to some type of standard, fines and the possibility of cancelation off the air?

Buck Harmon, you said Fifa tells lots of lies - that should make him a great politician since the first requirement for political office is to lie ones head off - but of course, if you can't make people believe the lies, you won't really do so well. It's why O'Malley and Obama have done so well - they make people believe them.

LOL The government won't have any problems.