Southland Hills Residents Miffed By TU Building
Building to serve as new headquarters for campus police, officials claim there will be little increase in traffic
Southland Hills residents are worried that Towson University is growing a bit too close for comfort.
At a Thursday evening meeting, neighbors voiced concerns over the university's new public safety building on West Towsontown Boulevard, set for groundbreaking later this year. Residents want the university to create more buffer space between the edge of a planned parking lot and the property line with Alabama Road homes.
During the two-hour meeting, attended by more than 30 residents, TU facilities officials fielded questions and comments on the project.
"There's a lot of long-term issues," said Alabama Road resident Mike Batley, who added that the university has "not a great track record dealing with the residents."
The $8 million building, funded through the university's budget, will house Towson University police, many of whom now work in the adjacent General Services building. Due to cramped conditions, six of 52 police employees, including TU's police chief, Bernie Gerst, currently work in the Administration Building on York Road. Those employees would move into the new public safety building.
Construction will lower the grade there by six feet, with a retaining wall, two fences and parking lot lighting aimed away from homes. Roger Hayden, TU's associate vice president for facilities management, said he would be willing to meet with residents to discuss their requests for the fencing and other measures. He joked in response to one written question, "If you have Diet Coke, I'll be there."
According to the university's current plans, the new building will be constructed on what were once tennis courts. The building will be close to the road, with an access road running in front. A parking lot for about 60 faculty and staff cars will be installed behind the building, alleviating some pressure on campus garages.
"Every parking space is critical for us," said David Mayhew, TU's director of architecture and engineering.
A new entrance, serving the new building and the current General Services building will be built across from the university's new "gateway" at University Avenue. The current General Services driveway will become an exit. Mayhew said county road-widening work on Towsontown Boulevard precludes keeping an entrance there.
Residents want the university to eliminate a back row of 20 parking spaces to create more buffer space and reduce traffic, "barring (the building) not happening at all," said Nicole Nesbitt, president of Southland Hills Community Association.
Neighbors sought assurances that the new building would not create more bus and truck traffic to the existing building—Mayhew said it would not.
Therese McAllister, an Alabama Road resident, came armed with enrollment figures and other numbers. One Monday, she sat outside the General Services parking lot and counted 112 vehicles going in and out during a workday.
If the university doesn't deal with the parking and increase the buffer, she said, "this meeting will have been a failure and a complete waste of time."
Ahead of the meeting, some residents quietly hinted the situation was as contentious as the university' 2009 meeting with Rodgers Forge residents that led to TU signing a memorandum of understanding that relocated a new arena. The Thursday meeting was far less contentious.
Others, like West Towson resident Mike Ertel, noted that the project as presented in recent renderings doesn't resemble the small addition shown on the university's 2009 master plan.
"They do this every time," he said. "They never get specific until they do the project. It's just an excuse for them to come throw that out there."
Russ Kuehn, who lives on Alabama Road directly behind the proposed site, acknowledged during the meeting that the university was trying to meet residents halfway, but noted that funding for the project has already been approved.
"What, if any, leverage we have on the project is goodwill," he said.
Josh Glikin
7:55 am on Friday, March 25, 2011
An additional point about the "master plan". At the meeting TU said that they had included the building on the master plan that was revised in 2009, and "no one objected" and that they had "more than 70" meetings with members of the public about their plan. Mike is right - TU uses this to try to shift the burden back to the community, suggesting that this was already approved and now that all the plans are finalized the community is changing gears unexpectedly & unfairly. That is absolutely untrue. The "master plan" is nothing but an artist's sketch from a 10,000 foot view over the entire campus, and contains a few rudimentary drawings with no details whasoever. That is a far cry from what has been presented now -- which is a 20,000 square foot, 2-story building with 60-additional parking spaces and an entrance wide enough to permit trucks to enter behind Alabama Road homes.
When the "master plan" was created in 2009, does ANYONE believe that Towson would have been able to offer any of the details for the new building & layout that it now has designed? In other words, when the plan was created in 2009 and they had their "70" meetings, I'd be willing to be that TU would not have had a single answer to questions such as, "what will be the size & layout of the building"; "how many parking spaces will there be, and who will be parking there and when?" and "what will the buffer zone be?" Why? BECAUSE THEY HAD NO DESIGN AT THE TIME. Give me a break, TU.
Russ
4:58 pm on Friday, March 25, 2011
The real answer regarding TU and their phenomenal growth is to change the law and force Universities to have to deal with LOCAL Zoning. If that were the case, the general services building and now this Public Safety Building would never have been located next to an established neighborhood.
We have no leverage unless there is a large enough outcry to force politicians to make a change.
K Blue
9:54 am on Friday, March 25, 2011
Southland Hills is an old and established Towson neighborhood. I understand the need for TU to expand, but to allot for 60 parking spaces at this proposed new facility is ridiculous. To do so leaves no appreciable buffer zone for these tax-paying residents. The residents are right to be so alarmed, especially when they had such little say in the actual designs as has been represented. There is no mention of landscaping either. For $8 million, I sure hope that they are going to put in some evergreen trees and shrubs.
Tyler Waldman
10:02 am on Friday, March 25, 2011
The existing plan had greenery and officials pledged to add more. I just received the aerial view of the project from the university. Check our gallery up top.
K Blue
10:11 am on Friday, March 25, 2011
Thanks! I just looked at the landscaping in the gallery, and it looks much better. But, my personal opinion is that that last row of parking spaces is still too close to the neighborhood. Noise and light travel.
Russ
4:56 pm on Friday, March 25, 2011
Tyler, all the trees that are in place now along the property line behind this "proposed" site were put there by the neighbors.
The bottom line is, they should NOT be expanding outside of the "core"! I don't really care about the "parking space issues" they have, because that is a problem they created by growing too large too fast. Why is it now appropriate for our community to have to pay for their poor planning regarding parking? Really, the poor TU employees have to walk across a street that has far more traffic on it than it should, because they have far more students than they should?
Towson?
10:25 am on Friday, March 25, 2011
What's interests me is TU had $4.9 million cut from its budget last year, loss nearly 8800 work days to furloughs, slashed financial aid by $36,000 and is desperately fighting to maintain the $38.65 million in their budget needed to finish the College of Liberal Arts complex. Anyone under the impression this building is a done deal is incorrect. The USM, not the University of Maryland System as Mr. Mayhew referred to it last night, has a long track record of halting projects due to funding. Any campus can give provide a list of multiple starts and stops.
In light of that information they are proceeding with an $8million Public Safety complex for 6 more employees and to quote Mr. Mayhew, "no increase in operational activity?"
Russ
4:50 pm on Friday, March 25, 2011
This state is facing a $1.6B deficit. They should "clawback" money that we can't afford to spend in this economy. The reality is $250B has been spent on capital projects for TU over the last 10 years. That is a phenomenal amount of money, and they didn't find this $8M until this year. So please don't tell me this is any kind of priority for TU.
Russ
4:51 pm on Friday, March 25, 2011
That would be $250M, not Billion.
Old Terp
11:55 pm on Friday, March 25, 2011
I can't see the overwhelming need for this structure - Russ makes a good point about all these capitol projects while we have furloughs and tuition hikes at the same time. Seems like University ego to me. Perhaps they could remodel, expand or replace their hideous General Services Building next door to incorporate the public safety functions. Then the 60 parking spaces that are so needed could be added along Towsontown instead of the new building. Altering that blight of a GS building might actually get community support.
K Blue
8:53 am on Saturday, March 26, 2011
Towson Native, as a practical matter, I wonder why they didn't think of moving the Towson University Police facilities and staff closer to the center of campus, Cross Country Boulevard perhaps. If I were to think long-term, that would make the most sense.
Old Terp
10:03 pm on Sunday, March 27, 2011
@K Blue:
I suppose the housing units going up along Towsontown Blvd have a lot to do with it, but I agree with you - more of a center campus makes more sense. If i'm not mistaken, the police force and 'Office of Public Safety' has offices in the Administration Building (above Bill Bateman's) at 8000 York Rd which is all the way over on the East edge of the campus . I suppose there would be plenty of room to build their new building next to the Administration garage (as you suggest) along Cross Country as things look now. Looking at their published masterplan however, those areas seem to be designed as future"Greek Village" housing units?
http://www.towson.edu/adminfinance/facilities/facilitiesplanning/documents/2009MasterPlanCompleteupdate11910.pdf
Guess Southland Hills from the early-1920's should give way for the future state-funded frat and sorority houses. This plan is also the one with extensive renderings showing TU development of the American Legion Post 22 triangle, even though the legion say they are definately not selling.
K Blue
10:15 am on Monday, March 28, 2011
Native, I hope that whomever is chosen as the next Towson University President has an opportunity to review the long-term facilities planning documents and is much more cognizant of established communities.
Russ
5:09 pm on Friday, March 25, 2011
Tyler,
Can you do some investigation regarding the money for this project? Last night when I asked if they had the money, they said yes, but when pressed about the Board of Public Works, they got a bit ambiguous with their answer. I think the money is allocated, but there is probably one more hurdle for it. If so, we have a chance to block, if not, stick a fork in us, cause we are done!
Tyler Waldman
11:24 am on Monday, March 28, 2011
I'm working on a follow-up today. It's cash on hand, basically. The BPW approves contracts, so when the University bids it out it will go to them for a vote.