He might not be Secretariat but a horse named Lil Mr. B did pretty well on his first time out for his owners, which include a who's who of top Baltimore County officials.
Lil Mr. B, a 4-year-old chestnut gelding, won the 7th race at Laurel Park (with video of the race) on March 9. The win netted about $19,000 for his owners, which include Suzanne Berger, an assistant county attorney.
Four other county officials—County Administrative Officer Fred Homan; Donna Morrison, the deputy county administrative officer; Arnold Jablon, director of Permits Approvals and Inspections, and Bob Barrett, a senior advisor to Baltimore County Public Schools Superintendent Joe Hairston—own shares of the horse through a corporation known as Lil Mr. B LLC, according to financial disclosure records filed with the county and obtained by Patch.
Homan is known as somewhat of a horse enthusiast. Last summer he was injured after a fall from a horse during a trail ride in northern Baltimore County.
The members of the group aren't the only county officials to race horses. James O'Neill, the director of the county Department of Corrections, also owns and races horses.
jane costello
3:25 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Gas at $4.00, increased taxes around the corner, pension issues at the county and state level and we're going to go public with this information. Are you sorry you didn't get a tip? They may all have Apple stock, are you going to look into that? C'mon, let's get real here. Thank god it didn't win at Timonium or the conspiracy theorists would be all hot and bothered. I'm certain there are those right now who think, "the fix is in".Thank goodness we have folks still investing in a time-honored Maryland tradition.
M. Sullivan
3:59 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
I think it's a very relevant story. It is just another example of the ties among the "Old Boy Network" in Baltimore County that picks our pockets while they scratch each others backs. I'm surprised old KK is not involved in the little venture.
Bryan P. Sears
3:29 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
I thought it was just an interesting anecdote told in less than 200 words. There wasn't any implication of anything. As one former spokesman used to tell me: A fun fact to know and tell.
Buzz Beeler
5:59 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
It was a very interesting article. I was not aware that Mr. Homan and Ms. Burger had a horse around, or is it horsing, well you know what I mean.
I recognize all of the names horse owners. I wonder, how much hay they make together?
Buck Harmon
8:35 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
Funny...)
RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT
4:25 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
I think it is good that these 4 high level county professionals can find time to enjoy themselves. The bright side is while they are following their horse, they are not thinking of new ways to fleece the taxpayers. So this is a good thing.
I am sure they are not claiming their losses for the upkeep of the horse as these are hobby losses - right?
Paul Amirault
4:49 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Give them a break. It's a hobby. A 4 year old horse sure isn't running in the Derby or Preakness. Way too cynical for me.
Bryan P. Sears
4:50 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
I was just noting said hobby~and the fact that the horse won. No more. No less. No cynicism.
Buck Harmon
8:41 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
Funny...)
RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT
5:11 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Agreed. The problem is trust. We have no trust in general with any of our politicians to do or say anything that does not help them - even at the expense of those they represent. We know they are reluctant to do the right thing in the first place, and being partners with other county officials in a partnership makes us question will these people do the right thing?
Also, is this something that should be noted in any disclosures?
Bryan P. Sears
6:21 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Rare Maryland Independent: The financial disclosure forms require that the county official disclose any corporations in which they hold an interest. The owners of the horse all followed the law and disclosed their shares in the company set up for the horse. That's why it was on the form.
Buzz Beeler
6:04 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Paul, you have to know who the jockeys and jockets are. It might help to know they shared the same saddle. Not sure about cracking the whip, although it appears that most riders are good at that down the stretch.
Paul Amirault
6:56 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
I do know who they are. One is a friend. Get off their back.
jane costello
6:35 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Leave it to Mr. Beeler to reduce this to the lowest common denominator. It is a "fun fact" and it was obvious there was no "gotcha" about it. But, at this point, what purpose does it serve other than to titilate Mr. Beeler and his warped mind.
To RMI, on another post (agreed off topic) you were asked 3 times to name one appointment that was unqualified. To date you have not answered that question. Your silence is deafening. Therefore you must agree that all of KK's appointments are qualified to serve in their position.
RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT
7:08 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Jane - surprised the Baltimore County Democratic Club is open this late to help you with your comments. On your related topic, let me try to explain it once again. Anyone with responsibility in the financial matters of Baltimore County either elected or appointed that stands and allows what happened to the pensions of KK and friends either is not qualified for the positon or does not have the moral character needed for that position. That means - any amount of decrease in ANY pension to the rank and file of BC Employees (with respect to payouts/formulas, etc), should ALSO apply to the elected and other high ranking officials in the county. Legal - maybe. ETHICAL - ABSOLUTELY NOT!
And this comment comes from someone who does not work for BC and has no family working for BC. Hope that helps.
Buzz Beeler
7:18 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Ms. Costello the facts I'm talking about are not fun nor funny. Since you make mention to "his warped mind.", why don't you tell the folks what I am referring to and don't be shy. You must know what I'm referring to if you think this is a "gotcha" moment.
Well it ain't, so I'll sit back and let you tell the story. There is a common denominator and it involves ethics, leadership, vows, a federal investigation, two of them, and many, many more lives that Mr. Homan touched.
Although your quote did not refer to me - "Your silence is deafening." - trust me, I don't have that problem. Just ask and you shall receive, as the saying goes.
YOUR TURN MS. COSTELLO!
Buzz Beeler
7:20 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Paul, friends don't let friends run amok.
Paul Amirault
7:44 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Buzz, the article is about a horse, nothing else. A 4 year old horse at that. They knew they would have to disclose it. It has nothing to do with anything else IMO.
Do you know what all of your friends are doing? Of course not.
Buck Harmon
8:43 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
A shits & giggles investment....at best...
Buck Harmon
9:05 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
These kinds of investments are ..for the most part made with tax purposes in mind.
Nothing wrong with that......I don't think that Bryan thought that this would be taken so seriously by some..
lemmy winks
7:29 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Why is it that the county executive has not been directly questioned about the double pension he and his cronies got. Is it too much to expect that he answer questions about the pension that taxpayers are funding. That is arrogance that knows no bounds. No conspiracies or lowest common denominators here, and I don't know any of the previous posters. But I do know that the Kamenetz pension is not only immoral, but illegal as well, and that point will be driven home when a lawsuit is filed, sworn testimony is taken, and everyone can find out the illegalities involved. I wonder how many people know just what was involved, and the back room deals that were cut to get these double pensions for these guys. And Mr. Homan is at the center of it all.
Calm down
9:41 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Sure, Ginny, I mean Lemmy. Get a life.
Buzz Beeler
7:58 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Paul, exactly. Now, who started this - my warped mind bit? People should know about the subject of which they speak. If they don't, then be careful when you (not Paul) start calling me names, because I do know what I'm talking about.
Everything I write about is documented. It is called research. Some of those victims are friends of mine. Oh by the way, I was a victim also, or just a number as the saying goes.
Bart
10:44 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Here we go again. Bryan looking for a big story, where not much exists. He even stated that it was a small piece, under 200 words for a big bang from the usual dolts.
Buzz, and the usuall reactionaries respond not knowing the details.
Knowing the business, I can tell you that it doesn't cost much for a group of people to invest in a horse that might run in a "claims race". If you don't know all the facts, you can't responsibly criticize.
But when has that ever stopped some people?
Buzz Beeler
11:30 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
Bart, let me say this, if one of your sons was the victim of some of these issues, I don't thing you would be singing the same tune. I know some of the victims and what they went through and still are going through.
I love how easy it is for people who have never gone through any of this to defend the actions of these politicians while masking claims that we don't know what we are talking about.
What is especially poignant is the same silence Ms. Costello was referring to in her reply to RMI with her comment of "Your silence is deafening.", is taking place here.
I'm not a reactionary in serious issues involving topics like this. Ms. Costello chose to incite some issues and when faced with a challenge to back up those incitement filled remarks, she conveniently disappears, like most people - who can't stand the truth.
Now since you opened the proverbial can of worms lets here from all of your wisdom on these issues. You know, all of the reasons you accuse others of "not knowing the details." Let's here those details?
If Homan did to one of your family members what he has done to others, and you took the attitude you just did, then either you are a very weak and timid man, or a member of said group. But just like Ms. Costello, I suspect you won't have much to offer in the way of factual information. You never do.
I guess I scared Ms. Costello away when I yelled.
Bart
8:02 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
This article is about a HORSE. Nothing more, nothing less. This doesn't mention victims, and I don't know any details, either. It's about a HORSE.
Emma Norton
10:59 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2012
let's get it correct for anyone seeking to muddy the waters....Kevin Kamenetz is indirectly involved. He owns the jobs that pay these men. Both the hefty salary received by Homan and the illegal double pension being collected by Jablon, enabled these guys to share ownership of this horse. KEVIN KAMENETZ--THE ONE WHO HAS YET TO BE QUESTIONED BY THE MEDIA-- is surely the one responsible for the "luxuries" these men share....
Let's stop dancing around the topic and go for a real story with relevance and worth to the taxpayers....a story that explores where all this money is coming from in our administrative office at Baltimore County! ....Everyone else is struggling, yet Kamenetz and his boys seem to be doing just fine.... Why is that????? Let's research the real reason why Baltimore County's budget is in the toilet...
fred r.
10:53 am on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
horseracing is a sport & a buisness. There is MONEY involved. Should a supervisor of others be involved in a buisness (LLC )with those he or she supervises ?? Think about possibje implications.Appearencess are important too.
Buzz Beeler
1:14 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
Bart, I have a question about your comment of: "This article is about a HORSE. Nothing more, nothing less." The other names listed in the article, are they horses to?
The way I read it was besides the horse's - name I mean - it was about who owned it including the name of the LLC.
If you are going to refer to others who make comments as dolts, you might want to make sure you are dolt-less, otherwise you sound like Ms. Costello.
By the way, what happened to her? All I did was ask a question.
Emma, thought you might like to see this on the county's budget woes.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/bs-md-co-budget-preview-20120312,0,6319009.story
Mr. Paul B
4:17 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
It seems Mr. Sears time could be better spent talking about DOJ investigations and the amount that has been payed out in taxpayer dollars attempting to defend poor decisions of our county leaders
M. Sullivan
4:26 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
Hey Bryan,
I bet you didn't expect all this from your Lil Mr. B horse story!
Buzz Beeler
4:57 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
M, you remember the words to this little song, - "A horse is a horse of course ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLR4iZJLgc4
I thought I heard the ending, with the name of Ed or was it - never mind.
Meg O'Hare
11:01 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012
This is not about hobbies and horses. It demonstrates the inbred nature of political relationships in Baltimore County, Maryland. They work and play together.
Balltimore County government reminds me of South Africa: Still white with engineered black leadership in a few Baltimore County departments; still run by the politcal descendants of the good old boys from 1970. Remember Kevin Kamenetz was the driver for Ted Venatoulis and now he is the County Executive. Kamenetz has his sights set on Maryland Attorney General next I guess.
Don't let the fact that there is one black and two women on the County Council fool you. The overwhelming power in Baltimore County still rests with the County Executive who is the most powerful County Executive in Maryland.
K Blue
11:26 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012
It is about hobbies and horses. You are making too much of this. People invest in many things, either individually or collectively. If someone is going to enter in a collective investment, why cant people who work together do the same without people overanalyzing it? It seem natural to me that coworkers or people who run in the same circles with common outside interests would choose to invest in something together. There's nothing wrong with it. Coworkers can be like family -- you spend a large portion of your life with them. There is nothing wrong with working and "playing" together. I also think you are giving the County Council too little credit and the County Executive too much. This is the most independent council collectively this County has seen in a long time.
Bart
11:34 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012
K Blue, you are right. I've known some people who have been part owners of racehorses, and it is just a hobby for them. Not terribly expensive, either, often less than country club dues.
And it supports a long standing and venerable industry in Maryland.
Many of the people complaining about this have their own personal axes to grind.
K Blue
2:34 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Bart, it is a shared interest just like book clubs, poker games, boating, season tickets and NCAA/NFL/MLB bracket pools (to name a few) are a common shared hobby/interest among coworkers. I would not characterize people who engage in those activities together as "inbred" which is why I chimed in.
Bart
8:24 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Agreed. It can also be a whole lot of fun for many generations of a family on a beautiful, sunny day at the track.
Lablover
8:43 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
Meg, you are wrong that the overwhelming power in Baltimore County still rests with the County Executive. He does not run the county, the Administrative Officer Fred Homan does.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:16 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012
While we are at it, perhaps these lover of horses and other friends in high places could weigh in on preventing "horse slaughter houses" from being activated here in the Great State of Maryland. Word is that the effort to do so has been given votes of approval by Senators Cardin and Mikulski.
Bart
11:35 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Good idea.
Buck Harmon
9:08 am on Friday, March 16, 2012
The title.."Horsing Around" says a lot.....Thanks for dangling the carrot Bryan !
Jose Escalante
12:26 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
I thought it is an article about a horse. How did it become political?
Buzz Beeler
9:34 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
It is about a horse along with the byproducts.
Buck Harmon
9:57 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Hopefully these "byproducts" will help with improving the very soil that we trample....stinky at first...fertile at last.......hopefully..
Buzz Beeler
1:08 pm on Saturday, March 17, 2012
Buck a perfect ten on that reply. There is more politics in horse racing then there is hay in the barn.
We're just trying to make sure the barn don't burn down.