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Kill Your Air Conditioning

Alan Southworth gets a little frustrated when he hears county officials say the lack of air conditioning in some Baltimore County Public Schools is no "big deal."

"We're tired of sending our kids to school where it's 94 degrees at 7:30 in the morning," said Southworth, the parent of an 8-year-old daughter at the school and a member of Air Conditioning For Middleborough.

"This is supposed to be an all is all," Southworth said during a meeting of the Board of Public Works Wednesday. "Is all all or does all mean half?"

"They have to do something to fix this," he said, adding that many of the adults in the Governor's Reception Room inside the State House wouldn't tolerate the conditions his daughter and others tolerate at the school.

"If the air conditioning is not that big a deal, I was told directly last June that it was only 17 days that our kids are subjected to this kind of heat—17 days," said Southworth. "They obviously don't have the funds. What they should do if all is all, they should shut down the air conditioning in every Baltimore County government building every Baltimore County public school until every school has air conditioning. Maybe with the money they save from all of them maybe they can pay for 100 percent air conditioning."

Dkennylee

9:00 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012

Yea its no big deal when u sit in ac office these people should find a new job

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Ellen Clampitt

9:15 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012

When my children were younger and attended Arbutus Middle School I called the Board of Education on a particularly scorching day and suggested that Mr. Hairston turn off his air conditioner and suffer with the children. Before I knew it, school was called half day off the next day. Like Dkennylee said, it's easy to sit in air conditioning and tell someone to deal with the heat!

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Bart

9:23 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012

When I was a kid, sure we didn't have air conditioning, but we had windows that opened wide, fans to move the air around, and, most importantly we weren't in school in June and August.
The heat is a health hazzard for kids, teachers and teaching assistants. Something must be done.

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Matthew

9:30 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012

I don't know that my kids deal with the "health hazard" too often; just trying to be honest. That said, it is nothing less than foolish and hollow to suggest to teachers and children that learning should occur for six hours in these conditions. It's simple: If you are serious about teachers teaching and students learning, provide an environment that supports and fosters your mission. Maybe that should have been a part of the Blueprint for "Progress"?

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Bart

7:06 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012

Matthew, there are lots of kids with asthma (one of my own) who have serious problems with too much time in high humidity, high heat conditions for too many hours per day, even with the proper use of an inhaler. He was hospitalized for 3 days because of his asthma during one of those spells.
Once the schoolyear ended, the problems went away because he was outside, even playing outside sports in the heat, but the air was cleaner and less humid. That, and he wasn't outside in that air for 6 straight hours, there are always breaks to come in out of the heat if necessary.
We always played a waiting game as to which would come first: hospitalization from the terrible classroom conditions, or the end of the School Year.
And this was at Lutherville Lab, Concerned Mom!

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Matthew

8:37 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012

Bart,
I'm sorry to hear that. Understand, I'm not saying it doesn't exist or doesn't happen. I teach in a setting that is not air conditioned and am very well acquainted with the problems that some student encounter. That established, the frequency with which we deal with similar issues to that which you've outlined isn't very high. Of course, the severity of a single issue of that nature ought to be cause enough for concern.

I just think it is important to keep in mind that while we discuss this as an issue, we can't forget the impact this neglect (and this is a failure to exercise a duty of care) has on ALL children. I can't help but shake my head when the powers that be act like learning is going on in these classrooms. year.

Kathleen Walther

3:38 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012

I LOVE the idea of insisting that these insensitive and inept administrators turn off their air conditioners ( and NOT open their windows) whenever our children and teachers have to endure such terrible conditions. Bet it wouldn't take long for them to end up out in their air-conditioned cars to check up on some silly parental and teacher complaints. Do any of them have children sitting on those sweat box classrooms ? Probably not. Too bad.

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Concerned Mom

5:06 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012

I work at Lutherville Lab where the temperatures in the classroom get dangerously high. What needs to be done is that every classroom in Baltimore County without air conditioning needs to get a thermometer and record the temperature on the hottest days with a flip-cam. Then all of those classrooms need to send those findings to our local representatives, bcps big-wigs, the governor, and the media. It needs to be an organized effort that involves parents, teachers, and staff that are affected by the horrible working conditions that we have to withstand.

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Mari

5:43 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012

I think that's a great idea. The parent teacher organizations could buy the thermometers since they aren't allowed to buy window units for the classrooms!

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Alan

6:12 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

"Concerned Mom", please email us a ac4middleborough@gmail.com and get on our mailing list...we need more parents like you...

MTH

9:11 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012

What did man do from the beginning of time until 20 years ago? He sweated and dealt with it!!!! You won't die from lack of A/C people.......

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Cathy Fialkowski

12:46 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Do you have your AC on when the temps go over 90 degrees?

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Concerned Mom

4:46 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

MTH- If you do not work in these conditions then you have no right to comment!

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Alan

6:13 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

MTH...please read my comments below...if you still feel the way you do, so be it.

moe green

6:07 am on Friday, January 27, 2012

a little suffeeing is good for the soul. no new or higher taxes to pay for air conditioning in schools. for that matter, take that money and return it to the taxpayer.

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Concerned Mom

4:50 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

moe green- if you do not work in these conditions, then you have no right to comment!

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Alan

6:16 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Moe, you are aware that we offered to purchase these units with our own private monies don't you? If not, please read again.

Buck Harmon

10:23 am on Friday, January 27, 2012

We are dealing with many poorly designed buildings that seem to have 0 passive cooling capability. Perhaps some less expensive passive cooling technique would solve some of the problem with no added cost to energy consumed.

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Buck Harmon

10:31 am on Friday, January 27, 2012

All new schools should be built of straw bales.

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Paul Amirault

11:56 am on Friday, January 27, 2012

Sheriff Arpaio does it with tents and pink clothes in Phoenix <[;-)) Just kidding folks!

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Concerned Mom

4:50 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Since they won't give us AC, teachers and staff would love it if we just had a big, powerful commercial ceiling fan in each classroom. It would help a little bit.

Baltimore1979

10:36 am on Friday, January 27, 2012

This fight for AC started at Ridgely Middle after a botched renovation (school was renovated for AC, but AC wasn't installed). The ceilings were lowered, walls of mainly static/non-opening windows were put in, and the few windows that did open opened INWARD by 30%. This led to 103+-degree classrooms. The parents bought thermometers, submitted extensive and detailed temperature data, but it wasn't accepted by BCPS. BCPS finally did its own data gathering, but somehow the data was "lost" or "corrupted." Thank goodness, in the end, the school received AC, but only after years and thousands of volunteer hours expended. When kids get rushed to the hospital due to dehydration, we have a problem.

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Alan

11:23 am on Friday, January 27, 2012

My heartfelt thanks for all of the supportive comments on this issue. I'm encouraged to see the outpouring of concern stemming from parents living in differing parts of Baltimore County. The only way we're going to resolve this imbalance is by working together and pooling our respective communities into one voice to show that this is a county-wide issue.

To Moe and MTH: Imagine the heartbreak of walking your 7 year-old little girl up the sidewalk leading to her school knowing the temperature INSIDE her 1st grade classroom was 94 degrees at 7:30 AM. Seeing her step off the bus exhausted with her face flush, her hair and clothes soaked with sweat, and her toes shriveled up when I took off her shoes and socks brought me to tears--and I've been outraged ever since.

Schools now start in August and run through late-June so children now are subjected to these types of temperatures a lot longer than we did 20+ years ago.

Myself and other parents at Middleborough offered to privately purchase the 25 individual air conditioning units needed to bring relief to all of the non-air conditioned classrooms as well as the cafeteria if Baltimore County would pay for their installation per their requirements and were denied.

If anyone would like to join our efforts, please email your information to ac4middleborough@gmail.com

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Paul Amirault

12:08 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

The school system's obstinate behavior in these kind of matters just always amazes me.

Performance Goal #4 from the BCPS 2011-12 "Blueprint for Progress" states "All students will be educated in school environments that are safe and conducive to learning".

Performance Indicator for Goal #4 is as follows: "4.1 All schools and school communities will maintain safe, orderly, nurturing environments (BCPS standard)"

http://www.bcps.org/offices/super/pdf/blueprint-for-progress.pdf

What am I failing to understand here?

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Paul Amirault

12:18 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Performace Indicator 4.3 states "Staff, students, parents/guardians, and
community members will express satisfaction with the learning environment, climate, and school facilities. (BCPS standard)"

Whatever that is supposed to mean?

Alan

1:34 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Paul...it means we need more people like you to stand with us and ask these simple questions...We supplied that very form within our presentation packets. In the October 19th Board of Public Works Hearing, Dr. Hairston stated that the process used in determining when schools would close due to extreme heat was when the heat index reached 95 degress by 9 am. Look at BCPS Rule 6303...you'll see that this was updated on 12/2011, 2 months after this statement, yet you will find that there is NO set time and temperature protocol...

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Paul Amirault

1:57 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

It's nutty. They will close a school at 5:30 AM on the obvious snowstorm that's on the radar but not here yet, but not close schools based on the forecast for high heat indexes which is generally very accurate. In addition to my blog post today about changing the school schedule, it would be nice to be able to deliver a web-based classroom for snow/hot days so some learning can still go on from home.

Arguments will be not everyone has a computer. Provide them. Another argument will be some can't afford Internet access, I say the ISP providers should provide free of charge to every home with school age children the ability to connect via the Internet to the "Digital School" and block access to the rest of the Internet. Betcha they would end up with a bunch of new customers once installed.

johnny towson

1:54 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

The County and State are out of money. Their credit cards are maxed out. Until they shuffle priorities, there will be no money for AC. Focus on getting the county to make AC a priority and it can be done. Go through their budget. There are $100,000 crumbs everywhere but there is no one gathering them for a better purpose. Just a continual year to year shell game. If there were debt capacity, there are 6 groups that would lend the money and execute the installation tomorrow. But the County and State refuses to cut meaningfully from their budgets.

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Other Tim

7:22 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

Why does it seem the roads budget is never cut? I would guess the amount of money being spent on the work being done at Charles Street and the Beltway would put air conditioning in every school, with money left over to build a couple of new schools.

Concerned Mom

4:57 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

We need to get the media involved- like the local news, maybe Tim Tooten, and put pressure on the right people. There needs to be follow-up. The county and state need to be held accountable!

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Buck Harmon

5:10 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

How about a " occupy hot schools" movement...? that'll get their attention..

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Cathy Fialkowski

5:28 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

I've contacted Tim Tooten numerous times about Middleborough's fight, and not once has he ever responded. My guess is he's buds with Hairston.

Concerned Mom

5:28 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

We need to formally invite our local reps, the govenor, bcps big wigs, and the media to actually come and spend a few hours in the hottest classrooms and see how much work they can accomplished!

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Alan

6:18 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

We did just that and all we've heard in response were crickets chirping in the distance...please Concerned Mom, send us an email.

Buck Harmon

8:36 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

It's time for the good ol American way to kick in folks.... If what you have done to date has not been effective, and you feel that your children could potentially be at risk in some way, it would be your responsibility to insist on an immediate remedy.
The students should not have to face another year of the same neglect.

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Buck Harmon

8:38 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012

If elected officials were public servants first, these situations would probably not exist..

Buck Harmon

9:58 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012

If one school has air conditioning... all schools should have air conditioning.... period
Responsible leadership would have the skill set required to make such improvement in education opportunity.

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Concerned Mom

11:37 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012

Buck- I agree 100%! And why does the front offices, computer lab, and library get to have it, while the rest of the staff has to suffer? It's ridiculous and inhumane!

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MTH

6:39 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012

I work outside for a living as does 3 billion people in the world. Not inhumane, you need to toughen up a bit!

Paul Amirault

6:06 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012

I would guess the front office gets it because they are 12 month employees and are there in June, July, and August. But they could follow the student rule, if students go to school without A/C, so do administrators.

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April S.

12:51 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012

Air conditioning IS A BIG DEAL! i challenge all these county officials to spend an hour in a classroom that is above 90 degrees. i can tell you from experience being a senior in HS how hot it can get and how frustrating it is that kids are subjected to this. If we aren't comfortable how do they expect us to learn and be focused when we are sweating in our seats? What about the ones that have medical conditions that can't be in this heat? Teachers that are pregnant that have enough things going on with fatigue and hormones along with this heat. This affects students learning, i thought education was #1. It is a big deal!

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Concerned Mom

9:44 am on Monday, January 30, 2012

MTH- Working outside means that you have access to some air flow- we do not. You can go and seek air conditioning if you want to- we cannot. We are bathrooming 16 special needs children in a small windowless bathroom that is over 90 degress, not to mention the heat and humidity in the classroom and also doing all of physical things required to run a classroom with active special needs kids. When you have done this job under these conditions, then you have a right to post on this topic, until then, you look completely ridiculous because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

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