I wish we had a person like Paul Dongarra in every corner of the County. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

The Baltimore County "Super Pac"....I question the integrity of Quirk...always have..

"It appears that there's a pay to play system in Baltimore County."

Someone should do an analysis of contributions across the board ... either support or refute this. It may be "common knowledge" that developers own many of the local politicians, but common knowledge is often wrong. It's best to look at the facts ... maybe it's true, maybe it's not. All I know is that developers seem to get what they want, politicians dream up these crazy shell-game plans to deliver property/easements/etc for them, and at least in this case, there are documented "illegal contributions" (which most folks used to commonly refer to as bribes).

On the other hand, there are some solid honest politicians in Baltimore who seem to be more supportive of the community needs.

Maybe some more investigation will yield some more resolution into who's playing for what team... it's a great start Bryan!

"PIA! PIA! PIA!"

~ Gomer Pyle

I would expect no less from nothing. It's like a rock, it just lays there. If you are going to respond then say something like an adult might. That way you won't make a fool of yourself.

Mr. Taylor made a keen statement on some documented observations and your best shot is PIA. How do you think many news organizations get their sensitive information?

You still have no clue.

"How do you think many news organizations get their sensitive information?"

Not by waddling up and down hallways yelling "PIA! PIA!"

Buzz Beeler

PLEASE Share the paperwork with us, we have to get rid of these political hacks. It is going to be very interesting to see who has what paperwork and for whom in the Dundalk swamp.

Whalen got off lightly, they should have sent his ass to jail and then suspend his dealings with the State of Maryland for three years. He tried to tamper with our political system.

If the residents paid attention to the Republican slate in 2010 these political hacks would not have these opportunities. Imagine a measly $2,500 by three cronies of Wahlen buys this access.

Maryland gets screwed again.

Jack there are certain issues I cannot discuss. I have in the past uploaded some of it. My lawyer has along with others the necessary documents.

I can assure you of other ongoing issues involving others. These issues are not limited to Baltimore County.

Jack I have filed many PIA's involving the county. I actually sued them over the issue and they turned over the documents. That is all I am allowed to say based on the agreement I signed.

I could only talk about the documents which did not reveal a smoking gun. I never understood that one unless there was something I missed which is quite posible.

A lot of my blogs on county government are based on the filing of a PIA such as this one.

http://dundalk.patch.com/blog_posts/north-point-officers-exonerated-in-shooting-death-of-joshua-lopez

"Jack there are certain issues I cannot discuss. I have in the past uploaded some of it. My lawyer has along with others the necessary documents."

= "I am Full of Hot Air"

Be specific and on what topics are you referring to. You don't have to quote and capitalize it. "= "I am Full of Hot Air".

Are you referring to yourself because you did not complete your sentence. There are remedial English classes to address this.

I thought you said you were working? Still cheating your boss I see.

Buzz Please keep up your good work, it helps all taxpayers. Surely I can understand your need to keep your cards close to your vest. This mess with Quirk, is just the tip of the iceberg I am sure. It is incredible to me, what a measily few thousand dollars buys access to in the county.

Even though I have a number of problems in AA where I moved from. I have some rather informative news concerning Johnson and a theft of 85 firearms from my business, that I would like to share with you in person. Perhaps, we can have a cup of coffee some where at your convience. Dumbcastle1@gmail.com

Thanks Jack Friese

Jack, I'll be in touch and thanks for your kind comment.

You guys are really funny on here with the holier than thou speak. Capitalism and taxation is all about scams. Everyone of you has their own "little" or "big" scam. Who, not me, said the spider to the fly.

You guys act like you are Saints. Ever cheat on your tax return? Confess. You are not a bunch of goody two shoes! The machine in the corner of the bar "for entertainment purposes only" pays off illegally and you know it. You really think that cash hits the tax return? The small business owner gets paid in cash, you really think all of that hits the tax return? Do you really think the billions of dollars spent in this last election by contributors didn't come with strings attached? Are you really that naive?

Get real folks. Money buys everybody. Cynical, you bet. But that is the way it goes.

Frank somehow it is hard to understand why you use "ha ha ha" [sic] without punctuation like the good grammar-bee you are and also you do know this site does not have sound.

My point was not about Fast and Furious but to the importance of the PIA, and the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) filings.

They use them to get what you have never done and that is to seek the truth. One needs to be educated to understand that.

You still never responded to my links yet. Are you having a problem?

The picture does not due the king and queen of negativity justice. They are the two most miserable people in Baltimore County. The only reason she lost was because of foul play, really? You lost, get over it. Tell the readers one constructive thing you've done for your community. Please run again so the folks over there can send you packing once again. Where is their outrage about the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelshon or for that matter their hero Bob Ehrlich. I think he tried to fix 2 elections. Was it wrong, yes, stupid yes, but please let's keep in mind the degree of the infraction. And not one single shred of evidence that shows anything improper on Quirks behalf. If you look it up the property has been zoned for office for 20+ years. So Paul Hategarra, take it someplace else, preferably outside of Baltimore County.

Mr. Dongarra, the state prosecutors stated there was no wrong doing on Quirk's part. Get over it. And get over your wife's loss to Quirk. For someone so concerned with the issues you pretend to care about, where were your accolades for Councilman Quirk when he revoked Thistle Landing, when he passed numerous development reforms so that the PUD process would be more transparent, better scrutinized and open for public comment? When he refused to up zone all those properties during CZMP? When he moved 190 acres outside the URDL? When he created the Pedestrian and Advisory Committee? When he created Neighborhood Commons? When he made Open Space a community benefit? When he secured the district's first NeighborSpace property? Did he do all that for developers, too? Doesn't make sense that the person you claim to be in the pocket of developers is passing all this legislation that makes their life more difficult. Doesn't sound much like open space is under assault by your councilman. But you're silent on all that, Mr. Dongarra. Why? Because your only objective is to destroy Quirk for defeating your wife in 2010. Get over it.

I so agree with Kelly and Jennifer. Paul is wrong. Kenwood has been zoned for office zoning for over 20 years and it's almost on a beltway ramp. Somehow I don't see anything but an office there. Paul and Rebecca have defied many of us in the Catonsville celebration committee by making our 4th of July parade into their political platform. Me and a TON of people in Catonsville are sick of the extreme tactics and calling lots of negative attention to our town. They have lost my vote, and many of my neighbors, forever.

Kelly - I recently attended a local function where everyone remarked how generous and giving the Dongarras are to our community, and how we wish we could be more like them. The list Mr. Dongarra gave above just modestly touches the great works he has tirelessly done personally, through our church, and through his company. Jennifer : No one can deny that, like all good politicians who want to remain in office, Mr. Quirk has been involved in good deeds for the benefit of his district. But, based on the court documents highlighting emails between Quirk and Whalen, how can any of us be so naive to think that Whalen isn't expecting that the financial relationship between him and Quirk won't benefit his quest to build The Promenade at Spring Grove Hospital..... I believe that is the crux of Mr. Dongarra's concern as well as those of who are worried about increased traffic and crime, as well as decreased open space and recreational fields, if Whalen's current proposal as written occurs.

"Jennifer" - "Sally" and "Kelly" - all accounts created over the course of the past few hours (5:10pm-7:45pm), all rabidly defending Quirk, and Sally tells us that "I so agree with Kelly and Jennifer." Hilarious... you thought that would go unnoticed?

Anyone see anything fishy there? Three new "accounts" in the past three hours, all supporting each other's wild attacks/opinions... and defending corruption (go figure that, from these special newcomers to The Patch)

Are these even real accounts/people? More Coincindences!
http://towson.patch.com/users/kelly-blue/comments
http://catonsville.patch.com/users/jennifer-84995707/comments
http://catonsville.patch.com/users/sally-g-f01d09ff/comments

Well, seems to me that any unused buildings Spring Grove can be used for State of Maryland offices. MDOT just built a new HQ down in Hanover at great expense... seems to me that they could have renovated vacant buildings at Spring Grove and saved a lot of money (not to mention forests). Whalen and his greedy aims for Spring Grove are one thing... we all have to make a living I suppose... but it should not come at the expense of the state taxpayer. Spring Grove is a state facility on state land and should stay that way regardless of it is used for a hospital (which is still a fully functioning hospital in the active buildings, BTW).

The Quirkster is a funny fellow to watch. The whole situation seems to be a jealous spat. Mr. Potter (Whalen) must now be thinking - I should have just spread my money to a few more folks and all of this would have stayed on the down low.
How Mr. Potter is even allowed to sniff any possible projects makes no sense to me, but with Marty as the Guv and KK in the BC driver's seat, it is business as usual baby.
I actually thought Mr. Potter's defense would be he did it because he is passionate about the trans do dad legislation that the Quirkster was bringing up.

Steve you do not start a sentence with the number "2". It's Two. "LOL" is being listed as a old and tired slang word. At least act your age. I can't hear you laughing. This site does not have sound.

No Frank, it's a revived PUD allowing a Thistle Landing!

RMI - perhaps you should read the hatch act. We know who you are. Dongarra - those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The group that supported you wants you to be quiet now. Yes - the Whalen thing is the tip of the iceberg. The group that supported Rebecca and Paul makes Whalen look like an angel. There are over a dozen people in Baltimore County that are waiting with loads of documents. Mr. Self Righteous Paul thinks that know one knows how he and his wife have operated. He'll find out different in time.

Hey Steve, how can you make a conclusion based on some facts when you can't even follow the rules on how to write them if they were indeed the real facts which they are not.. You don't have a clue on what happened behind the scenes.

The council won. Not the community, they were against it. It seems that a call was made by the developers and the PUD was reintroduced by Olszewski for another vote after it was passed.

"We may have acted too quickly", Olszewski said but never followed up on he statement.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-06-12/news/bs-ed-baltimore-county-council-20110611_1_pud-projects-pud-process-zoning-map

I think you forget who the loser is in your comments. You never take the time to research and embarrass your counterpart Frank.

Lets see Mr. Paul Hategarra stand up to the heat when it starts, like running a catering business from your home Paul? It's a residential neighborhood do you think that's appropriate for your Catonsville neighbors? Hmmmm? Maybe someone needs to check on your zoning to see if that's allowed. And btw how many of your suppliers gave campaign money to your wife in her failed attempt to win an election? If she had won were there any FAVORS to be given to those suppliers such as perhaps exclusive rights to sell you their food supplies? Were there any discounts given to you by your suppliers that in turn you used for her campaign??? Questions need to be answered by you. Lets open the books Mr. Transparency. Put out there on your website for all to see. You see Mrt. Hategarra what goes around comes around.

How many people posting about this live in College Hills or Hidden Bluffs, really bad projects right? Was the Catonsville Professional Center, Rolling Crossroads or how about Charlestown a bad idea. OMG they took an old seminary with rolling fields and woods and turned into the best retirement community in the area that thousands have enjoyed. My oh my these dam developers. Dongarra and their ilk are not FOR Catonsville they're for themselves. Catonsville would be a much better place without them. And to all of the Hategarras out there, don't shop at the Giant at Wilkens that property used to be ball fields. So don't compromise your principles. You need to go to the A&P in downtown C'ville and get your prescriptions filled at Moss Drugs and when you want to see a movie make sure it's only the Alpha Theatre. Mr. Hategarra do you even know anything about Catonsville?

Paul D. Dongarra, President and Executive Chef of Dionysus’ Kitchen a local catering company based out of Columbia. Clients include Westinghouse, SONY Design Centers, Business Innovation Consortium, Prudential Securities, Borg Warner, Anderson Consulting, CW Amos
contact us today: 410-744-4300
Hmmmm????? "based out of Columbia" yet a Catonsville phone number?
Hmmmmmm? Did any of these "clients" donate to Ms. Hategarra?

Funny how Paul Dongarra is being quiet for once after commenting hundreds of times as 'open eyes' and himself and other names. Maybe Bryan Sears can look into the Freedom to Choose PAC expenditures and contributions (what is reported and what wasn't) and the 'Team Obama' slate that Paul lied about in the paper saying he knew nothing anything about. Paul & Rebecca will be exposed for who they really are... it's just a matter of when. By the way... didn't Rebecca's family make a ton of money selling off open space and developing in Howard County?? How ironic. Gotta love karma when it comes back around... and it will.

I strongly suggest you button it up. Your using fake names and are going a little overboard. You have done this solely to attack one person. You have had you movement which was formed solely for this reason. You got your point across.

If you want to continue than use your real name. Sometimes these things can come back to bite you and you will have to answer for you remarks and I think I know the person you will have to answer to.

It's your call but I would ask the person if it is worth it.

The best part... the more comments there are, the more traffic, the higher SEO rating... and the higher up we should see the phrase "campaign finance violations" when searching Whalen / Quirk... The more noise you make, the clearer people will hear.... so keep spamming away!

Try it out https://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&tbo=d&q=Whalen+baltimore+developer+&oq=Whalen+baltimore+developer

Kelly I know what the facts are that is why I'm a suggesting to put a stop to this. I certain you do not want to be responsible for what you may do. This I know.

Things s could get much worse. You need to talk to someone. I pulled a comment out of personal reasons. I could go well beyond that comet but I would rather see this name calling stop.

Either use your real name and affiliation or I strongly urge you stop. Talk to the man and see what he suggest. I'm sure you know each other.

The case is over the people have and will judge. You are simply adding fuel to the fire and not in the best interest of your client.

Kelly Mr. Quirk is not guilty of any wrongdoing. We already know that. You are string up things you should stay out of. Talk to him and ask him. He'll know what you are talking about. It deals with politics pure and simple.

You are letting politics take over here and finger pointing is not in the best interest of anyone at this point. The trial is over. Your are making it worse.

"You are letting politics take over here and finger pointing is not in the best interest of anyone at this point."

Practice what you preach Beeker!

"Kelly I know what the facts are that is why I'm a suggesting to put a stop to this. I certain you do not want to be responsible for what you may do. This I know."

It sounds like a threat.

djp you are wrong. They are fake names period. One has no idea who they are conversing with. I am writing a blog on this subject. Just look at the comments and you can understand the level of intelligence, honesty and integrity one encounters.

If a person can't engage in adult discourse I will not respond. There is a way to stop this kind of engagement. At times I have lost my temper and responded in a way I'm not proud of. Yes I believe there are juveniles on this site using these fake names but I will no longer engage them.

If I was going to go to all the trouble to create a fake name I think I could have been more creative than "Steve" something like "Hugh Jarse" or "Anita Mandehug".

But on the bright side at least I have never tried to pretend I'm a 16 year old girl poster. How'd that work out for ya?

djp well written response. I respect that. It's not the name that counts but in the manor in which that person chooses to represent that name.

As I said your comment was a model for others to emulate.