Mike Miller Wouldn't Mind A Toke

The Maryland Senate president says he supports medical marijuana for cancer patients and maybe the pain in his tooth.

Maryland Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller wouldn't mind a toke right about now.

The Senate Thursday afternoon is expected to take up a bill sponsored by Del. Dan Morhaim, a physician and Baltimore County Democrat, that creates a commission to study the medical use of marijuana.

The leader in the Senate said Thursday that he supports medical marijuana for cancer patients and spoke of the pain his mother suffered as she battled the disease.

But there's also this nerve pain in his tooth.

"I've got a fractured nerve in my tooth right now," Miller said. "I wouldn't mind a toke myself."

If Miller is holding, he might want to save some because that pain could shift about 3 feet lower in a few days.

The Maryland General Assembly wraps up its business Monday at midnight—historically a stressful day in the 90-day session as legislators rush to beat the clock.

Just sayin'.

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Sean Tully April 08, 2013 at 01:29 PM
p.s. And our current possesion laws only fuel the illegal drug trade. Just because it is not criminal to carry a certain amount of weed any longer, it still has to be bought from some drug dealer who probably got the shipment from someone down south (Mexico, etc., ) that may have endagered some DEA agent.
Jonathan Inskeep April 08, 2013 at 02:30 PM
WTF? Judge our elected reps based on how they vote. Your comment "explains" a lot about you.
Tim April 08, 2013 at 02:34 PM
I completely agree on this particular view. This is just another classic right wing/religious hypocrisy in play here. Alcohol is more destructive then marijuana, and gambling is more destructive then alcohol consumption. Legalize it, tax it, profit.
McGibblets April 08, 2013 at 02:46 PM
Tim: a) i agree with Sean pretty much entirely as well b) I dont know we can exclusively fault the religious and the GOP although I can certainly see they have a majority stake here in maintaining illegal status of these agents. I still think its a control issue and even plenty of members of the left dont want to see this jobs program (war on drugs, incarceration, legal system etc) come to an end or even a decline. Again, not arguing with you really just saying its not solely GOP/religious folk... "U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. — Arguably one of the state’s most influential Democrats, the lawmaker called this measure “a jumbled legal nightmare that will make our highways, our workplaces and our communities less safe,” leading to increased drug use, conflict with federal law and loss of federal funding." http://www.calmca.org/whos-with-us/ I understand this is references medical use but the same if not harsher feelings are generally shown to full tilt end of prohibition.
cary quintana April 08, 2013 at 03:16 PM
What could one possibly argue? Lets see, inaccurate dosage due to variable THC levels depending on plant, unintended dosage of THC due to proximity (second hand smoke), unintended secondary illness due to inhalation of smoke partials to the lung. Just for a start. If it is to be used for medical reasons then have the THC removed from the plant and placed in a non-smoke media. Dissolving tabs, tablet, liquid etc... That way you have controlled dosage and limited secondary events. Beautiful harmless plant. IMHO all plants are beautiful, Harmless? Smoking - increased heart rate, lower blood pressure, increased carcinogens, higher levels of tar.. Consumption - Disorientation, Hallucination, Delusion.. Hemlock is beautiful and harmless too ... as long as you don't touch it or eat it. just a thought.
Robin Ficker April 08, 2013 at 03:27 PM
When you raised the regressive gas tax 80% on the poor and middle class with the help of our 4 Germantown legislators you gve yourself a toke Mike!
Tim April 08, 2013 at 05:36 PM
No quarrel with your comments McG at all.
Columbia Independent April 08, 2013 at 05:51 PM
Comparing the long-term effects of smoking marijuana to the ingestion of hemlock proves you have no knowledge of botany or drugs. Are there bad effects of long-term consistent marijuana smoke? Sure. Smoking anything long-term and regularly is going to be bad for you. Then again, so is long-term consistent eating of fast food, use of cellphones and computers, living in areas with heavy traffic, etc. Are the bad effects outweighed by the positive effects, particularly when inhaled on occasion in a gaseous form? Absolutely, the science does not lie. Smoking marijuana wouldn't necessarily be considered healthy from a base point of, well, living in the middle of nowhere, eating fresh organic food, and exercising regularly. Compared to the dangers associated with cigarettes, alcohol, and urban life, though, marijuana is not only healthier but possibly recommended as a positive way to avoid stress.
cary quintana April 08, 2013 at 06:29 PM
Actually within the first hour or so of inhalation the combination of low pressure and increased heart rate quadruples chances of heart attack, the Hemlock reference is not far off. Though if you want to get technical the former does in fact not cause the convulsion and muscle spasms resulting in the ingestion of water hemlock. That however is not the point being made. If it were I might have referenced unripened mulberry, Nutmeg, Apple seed, or Belladonna.. perhaps more accurately would be the misuse of Datura, Henbane, or Nightshade.. do not presume to be able to glean my knowledge of plants and their effects. Science does not lie? Well, that depends on who's science you chose to believe, now does it not? You seem to prefer to pay attention to the studies of people who openly want to legalize drugs promoting not just medicinal but recreational use. I simply point out inherent flaws of inconsistency within the promotion of the raw plant itself. Example, though many opiates are used for pain mitigation in modern medicine. It is precise, clean, regulated, and controlled as much as can be to the patient and dosage administered. We don't give people lumps of black tar Heroin and tell em to "smoke up". Yes, I think that the plant has properties that could be very useful. However I think the argument has been twisted by recreational users fit their agenda. Which is, (not including the minority who need pain mitigation) in my opinion, pathetic.
Columbia Independent April 08, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Funny, I'm sitting here reading some studies on marijuana and its effect on the cardiovascular system, and the consensus is that there is no consensus. In "Adverse health effects of non-medical cannabis use" posted in the medical journal, The Lancet, they concluded that "cannabis smoking is currently not a major contributor to cardiovascular disease" and "[they] believe that the possible cardiovascular risks of cannabis smoking need to be better understood". Another study on the "Association between marijuana exposure and pulmonary function over 20 years", posted in the Journal of the American Medical Association, concluded that "occasional and low cumulative marijuana use was not associated with adverse effects on pulmonary function." How's that for science? Or are you going to suggest that articles like those are simply part of the "pothead agenda"? P.S. Spouting a bunch of common knowledge about various herbs and their effects doesn't make you an expert on them. This is doubly evident when you mention members of the same family as if you were providing a varied list; i.e. Datura, Henbane, Belladona, etc. which are ALL Nightshade and ALL well-known members of Solanaceae. The fact remains: Marijuana's "poisonous" effects, beyond the general effect of smoking, are far less conclusive in the eyes of science than the obvious effects of common toxic plants.
cary quintana April 08, 2013 at 07:46 PM
Soooo... Now you agree that your aforementioned statement that "the science does not lie." was wrong? and that since " the consensus is that there is no consensus." you agree that there is no viable argument for the benefits of it's use regarding cardiovascular health. Good, glad you finally realized that. BTW, never claimed to be an expert on plants. Ohh and fun fats, Tomato is also part of the Nightshade family and are very tasty... and good for you...
Columbia Independent April 08, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Where, in anything I just wrote, did I say my statement about the science was wrong? Where did I say that there was any cardiovascular benefit to smoking marijuana? You seem more intent on putting words into others mouths then actually reading what people wrote. And yes, I'm aware that tomatoes are part of the same family as the various nightshades, and so are potatoes and bell peppers. Just like hemlock is in the same family as celery and carrots. None of that has anything to do with the supposedly "poisonous" effects of marijuana, which have not been proven.
Shirley Bowers April 08, 2013 at 08:52 PM
Hey guys, they had no money to spend or waste this session in Annapolis, so they decided to smoke instead.
Shirley Bowers April 08, 2013 at 09:02 PM
If the Sate Legislature wants the minimum wage to go to $10.00 and kill many small businesses, maybe they all need to get paid $10.00 an hours while in session, on the floor only. I wonder do they get reimbursed for their gas going back and forth to Annapolis? If they do no wonder they raised the gas tax, Miller and Busch get driven around in a State car on our buck not theirs. No matter what party you belong to this needs to stop.
patricia April 09, 2013 at 12:42 AM
I had a family member with esophageal cancer, and with this type of cancer, and the surgery performed, he could not smoke anything. He was given, by a doctor, marijuana pills to increase his appetite . Didn't seem to help him much. Given for medical purposes is one thing, but many of these suppliers are not doing this for the sake of medicine. Just like everything else most of them are in it for the money.
patricia April 09, 2013 at 12:46 AM
I think Dbuford33 WAS judging Miller on how he votes, liberal progressively. Just because he doesn't agree with you, doesn't give you the right to judge him Jonathan. Practice what you preach.
cary quintana April 09, 2013 at 01:57 PM
You seem to have problems with memory, retention, and perception. (all effects of pot BTW). Try reading my post again, concentrate this time, I did not say that you were quoted as science being wrong.. I said that you were wrong when you said "the science does not lie" in direct reference to your other quote of "the consensus is that there is no consensus" I know you are defensive (side effect of paranoia, another known effect of pot.) but try and read the whole thing again. I am not putting words in your mouth, I am using the words that you typed to show that you are supporting an argument that since there is no consensus for or against that the medicinal POV is flawed. Ohh and BTW, in order for me to quote, by default I must read what you wrote.. just pointing that out. Also I note that noone has addressed my comments on the inherent problems with using the raw plant in lew of properly controlled dosage and dosage method.
Columbia Independent April 09, 2013 at 02:18 PM
The fact that you assume because I support marijuana legalization I actually smoke marijuana speaks wonders for your own personality and intelligence. Nice ad hominem attack there! Got any more fallacies you want to try and throw to support your weak argument? You tried to suggest that smoking marijuana could be as dangerous as hemlock or a variety of other toxic plants. The science does not lie... there is no proof of such a claim. You tried to talk about the effect of marijuana on the cardiovascular system as proof of your statement. The science does not lie... there is no proof of such a claim. Marijuana can have negative side effects. Those negative side effects are nowhere near the danger of well-known toxic plants, or even other legal controlled substances. Your attempt to equate the two is pure hyperbole, raw dosage or not.
CP April 09, 2013 at 02:53 PM
I'm all fore legalization. Tax and regulate it like alcohol. However they must be strict with punishments for driving. One and done. That might deter driving under the influence.
cary quintana April 09, 2013 at 03:01 PM
Oh no, I am assuming nothing, I'm implying. There is a difference. Vos quoque pro ad hominem. (So you don't have to google it.. "You too on the personal attacks.") I will at least admit that I think the conjugation is correct, but I'm not sure... been a really long time. BTW, my argument was that exceedingly few plants are harmless, certainly not pot. Is it Arbor de Muerto? No, but it is not harmless. As far as "The science does not lie... there is no proof of such a claim." mmmmm sorry but you are wrong again, there are studies that show what I sad was accurate. Are there others that refute or don't address it? Likely, but the studies that show issues do exist, therefor "science" can be considered subject to interpretation of findings, thus your statement that "the science does not lie." is fundamentally wrong. As far as the effects being lesser. MMM again wrong.. they are equal to and worse than some currently regulated drugs.. not as bad as others. My equation of the two plants was more metaphorical than hyperbole... but good try.
E Dub in Bel Air April 09, 2013 at 03:02 PM
We're all out of your friggin' minds... just because people participate in illegal activities, that doesn't make it a "good idea" to legalize things that SHOULD be illegal. Drugs and alcohol kill tens of thousands a year, many innocent bystanders, along with destroying many more families, create health issues that we all pay for enough already, and drain the economy. But instead of doing the RIGHT thing and working to fix existing problems, we just want to "legalize and tax" other wrongs and imagine that this will somehow make things better. The abuse of "medical marijuana" programs is rampant in states that already have it. Maryland will be no different. All I know is that if anyone I care for is ever harmed by someone under the influence of state-approved medical marijuana... vengeance will be mine.
E Dub in Bel Air April 09, 2013 at 03:05 PM
And this complete and utter LIE that people who abuse marijuana are somehow LESS dangerous than people who drink alcohol is such a moronic statement... completely, totally, utterly clueless. They don't just "fall asleep" any more than those who drink too much. They don't magically decide to not drive any more than those who drink too much. Morons. Complete, utter clueless morons. All of you...
cary quintana April 09, 2013 at 03:25 PM
Lets keep this a civil debate, no one has the right to take "vengeance" you enter into vigilantism and we are trying to have a society here. I would like to point out an inherent difference between pot and Alcohol. There are those who drink socially and not for the effects of Alcohol. Personally I actively dislike the effects, but I do enjoy the taste of some Stouts and some Whiskeys. I do agree with the rampant disregard for law, the argument that since people are doing it anyway we should legalize it. "It" being any particular activity that some people want to be able to do. Why don't we simply get rid of all laws.. it would certainly lower the crime rate. If you missed it.. that was Sarcasm.
cary quintana April 09, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Evets, There is a difference. In use of the two, alcoholic drinks have the secondary effect of drunkenness, where as intoxication of pot is the primary purpose. Abuse of both is the same.
McGibblets April 09, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Cary, certainly you're aware of the fact that linking or citing the studies or data that you say backs up your claims would benefit your argument greatly, no?
cary quintana April 09, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Mr G, It's easily found with a few basic searches but.. Dr. Jean Lud Cadet, chief of the Molecular Neuropsychiatry Research Branch of the National Institute of Drug Abuse. May 13 issue of Molecular Psychiatry. "The analysis showed significantly higher blood levels of apolipoprotein C-III in the marijuana users than in the nonusers. APOC-III is one of a large family of proteins that interact with fats. It delays the breakdown of triglycerides, fats that can accumulate in blood vessels and promote formation of plaques, leading to blockages that can cause heart attacks, strokes and other problems." also http://www.medindia.net/news/cannabis-linked-to-heart-attack-115251-1.htm also for the argument of proper controlled use of THC http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20050406/marijuana-chemical-fights-hardened-arteries you call can look up the rest.
Tim April 09, 2013 at 05:13 PM
Wow, there's a whole lot of stupid in this section of the thread.
OcF OwNs April 10, 2013 at 02:36 PM
I agree with you 110% think of the money waisted on pot convictions and prison sentences, compared to molesters /killers. We spend way more on a plant. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Joan Nash-Riner April 21, 2013 at 01:21 AM
can't we all just get along??? pass the joint please! y'all are so uptight about who is wrong and who can't spell and who knows their botany better than the other person. geesh! mr. HERBert is everyone's friend and does no harm (social/medicinal smoking). i think everyone should fire up b4 hitting the road and dealing with i-95, i-270, i-295, i-495, i-66 traffic!! LOL! that $hit sucks....would definitely make the trip a lot less stressful and tolerable!
Jonathan Inskeep June 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Patricia, How is stating "I think a lot of them are on drugs" (Dbuford33) judging Miller on how he votes? Your comment "liberal progressively" clearly indicates your bias. A liberal is someone who is "Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry." Progressive means someone who believes in progress. Knee jerk reactions like your do little to contribute to intelligent discussion.


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