Kamenetz Tells State Legislators Saving Teacher Positions 'Not Possible'

Letter outlines budgetary difficulties. Also: legislators plan to meet with media after superintendent's meeting,and Patch talks deer hunting and private breakfast meetings with WBAL radio.

State legislators who have asked to save nearly 200 teaching positions have their answer—and it's not the one they were hoping to hear.

Kamenetz, in a letter released today, cited budgetary constraints and cuts in state aid to the county as the primary factors why the positions cannot be restored.

"Unfortunately, while I am appreciative of the efforts of our delegation to increase education funding, restoring the teacher/student ratio positions at the same level as last year's budget does not appear possible at this time," Kamenetz wrote.

Last week, more than a dozen legislators sent the county executive a letter asking him to find the money to that are expected to be eliminated as part of the Baltimore County Public Schools proposed budget for next year.

The proposed school system budget will be part of Kamenetz's first budget as county executive. He is scheduled to present that budget to the County Council next week.

In an interview last week, Kamenetz told Patch he would need nearly $16 million to restore the teaching positions. Cuts in state aid to the county and new costs the state is passing on to the county make it impossible to find the needed funds.

In his letter to legislators, Kamenetz said that figure jumps to $24.8 million when the county adds in additional costs related to fully funding health care in the board of education budget.

The county executive made the exact same arguments in his letter today to legislators.

Del. Steve Lafferty, vice chairman of the county House delegation, said he had not seen Kamenetz's letter when asked about it by a reporter.

The Towson Democrat said the county executive had gone over all of the budget numbers with him during a meeting last week.

Lafferty said that while he understands "that the county has taken an overall cut" he still hoped that Kamenetz would look for ways to restore the teaching positions.

One suggestion Lafferty offered was to move money within the school system's proposed budget to fund the positions.

"I'm not sure he can compel the superintendent to spend the money in the way he wants, but I think it's an important message to send," Lafferty said.

Next best thing to being there

Del. John A. Olszewski Jr. and Sen. Kathy Klausmeier have scheduled a 10:30 a.m. meeting with the media Friday to discuss their with Baltimore County Public Schools Superintendent Joe A. Hairston.

The chairs of the House and Senate delegations are scheduled to hold a private breakfast meeting with Hairston to discuss concerns about the hiring of new Deputy Superintendent Renee Foose, her reported $214,000 salary and the schools system's handling of the issue with the media—particularly its requested by Patch 28 days ago.

Hairston, in a recent interview on WBAL radio, said criticisms leveled against him were .

Olszewski and Klausmeier . Both said they had hoped it would be in public during a joint meeting of the House and Senate delegations. Klausmeier said Hairston agreed to meet on the condition that it be only with them and that it was not open to the public.

Patch on the Air

Although actress Ashley Judd told WBAL radio's Bill Vanko this morning that she is "abstinent of all press and media," luckily enough for the jilted news anchor, Patch is very media friendly. Listen to Vanko and I talk about county politics with Vanko, including and, of course, .

Mike Lurz April 08, 2011 at 07:16 PM
Buzz, re-read and agreed with
Matt April 08, 2011 at 07:21 PM
Mrs. H and Mike, While your solutions sound good, they are not feasible. Your solutions seem like the end all of be all, but it isn’t that easy. Buzz, Buzz, Buzz...I'm glad you are finally entertaining the idea of an English class. I am aware of what exactly a paragraph is, it only takes me one to show you up every time we chat! :)
Buzz Beeler April 08, 2011 at 07:26 PM
Mike, the information is out there. It requires a considerable time commitment. The county has three budgets listed on their web site. Each one is assigned a particular name. One particular evening, Bryan questioned some of my figures, so I went back, along with my associate who has a masters from JHU, and we double checked. My figures were correct. Click on my name and you will find the numbers I posted. There are hundreds of pages to be read carefully in order to ascertain how much money in the county is at steak. If the taxpayer knew what was going on behind the scenes the house of cards would come tumbling down. The cost of educating one child in the county ranges from between, $10,000 and $13,000 per year. Take a look at this and you will understand why we are facing a budget crisis of historical proportions. This link only address the problems with the amount of people who actually pay taxes. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly-half-of-US-households-apf-1105567323.html?x=0&.v=1
Tiffany April 08, 2011 at 07:35 PM
Sir, again, I ask you to please grow up? I myself, am very interested in these opinions, not your crusade against Mr Beeler. May I ask how old you are?
Mike Lurz April 08, 2011 at 07:37 PM
How do you know that they are not feasible. It is my assertion that neither you nor anyone with the true facts and figures has thoroughly explored it. While your at it, look up the current per capita income for Baltimore County, and then look at the average taxes paid...obviously way out of balance. That is NOT sustainable.
Mike Lurz April 08, 2011 at 07:39 PM
Also Matt. if you run out of money when paying your monthly bills, do you simply run back to your employer and ask for ( demand) more money???
Matt April 08, 2011 at 07:54 PM
No Mike, I do not. I live within my means, as should you.
Buzz Beeler April 08, 2011 at 08:40 PM
Tiffany, thank you for your kind remarks. Political robust debate is good. The problem arises when these people use their comments to attack one on a personal level. In my case dealing with Matt, he attacked me by suggesting I take an English class at CCBC and continued his tirade by demanding that I stop commenting. His claim was that there was an outcry of others on this site who shared the same sentiments. When I clicked on his name it revealed all of his comments. I noticed that quite a few of them were directed at me. I don't mind debating in a civilized manor, but when attacked on a personal level, I will respond, not in kind, but rather point out their childish behavior. When he insinuated that my name was not legitimate along with my comments, I found it necessary to challenge not only his behavior, but his agenda as well. Winston Churchill one of the great leaders in WWII once made a statement that went something like. those that reap the wind, shall reap the whirlwind. Once again, thank you for you kind remarks.
Buzz Beeler April 08, 2011 at 09:04 PM
After carefully researching the impact of time as it pertains to this volatile subject, the time is now 5:00 p.m. and all is quiet which means its dinner time.
Tiffany April 08, 2011 at 09:25 PM
Mr. Beeler, you're very welcome! I look forward to your thoughts on such subjects. I found it very odd an adult would say the things he has.
Mike Lurz April 08, 2011 at 09:33 PM
AH, now Matt makes comments about me living within my means...off the path, but in response, the constant decision to take more of my money makes my means a variable, regardless of what I earn. Perhaps you should stick to the facts, and backing up the claims you make rather than name calling and snap judgments on people you don't know. Your credibility is sinking quicker than Hairston's approval rating.
Mike Lurz April 08, 2011 at 09:35 PM
He has proven not to be an adult ( at least intellectually) and his surprisingly direct response to my question only serves my assertion that he has not thought this through. He allows the government to make mistakes that he admittedly would not make on his own. Accountability??? I think not. Have a good weekend folks.
Matt April 08, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Where do I even begin…. Tiffany, Yes, I am aware this is an opinion board. Hence why I posted my OPINION. If you do not like my opinion of Buzz and his statements, well TFB. My age is of no value to this conversation, but I will say I am over the age of 18. Additionally, I am fully aware of what ADHD is and I do not have a large porn collection, although I cannot say the same for others on this post. Mike, I’m not quite sure how you implied I am off topic, you asked me a question and I answered it directly. Additionally, if we would like to talk about intelligence feel free to read the logic behind your posts. They are weak, at best. The only judgment I have made of you so far is off of your posts. I could really care less how you pay your bills Mike. I made a suggestion, you are the one who took it personal. Buzz, I agree a political debate is good; however, you never debate the issues. You simply point fingers at our elected officials and reiterate your campaigning positions and offer unrealistic solutions. Tip for you, this will not help you win a campaign. I feel as if you love to throw stones, but live in a small glass house.
Mike Lurz April 09, 2011 at 12:23 AM
Yeah, you're right, it's probably not you, it's everybody else.
Buzz Beeler April 09, 2011 at 02:41 AM
As I stated previously you have no conception of what constitutes robust political discourse. You make a statement that Mike's post "are weak at best." Instead of articulating your comments into a cohesive response with facts, you chose to demean the commenter. The election is over and I did not win. I have backed up my comments with links to previously published news articles by reputable journalists. I do not throw stones. Throwing stones involves attacking one on a personal level as in your less than mature reply to Tiffany by using TFB. I guess that makes you feel like a big man? If you were mature enough to understand that what you are doing is alienating others on this site by your continuously immature attacks. If you take issue with my comments concerning a public official that you feel I have pointed a finger at, then challenge me with facts. Do you know what a link is? You have yet to use one in any of your comments. When challenged you revert to childish personal attacks. If you want to be taken seriously then I suggest you grow up first. You do not have a clue that every post you make is available for all to see by clicking on your name. That is where you are making your mistakes. You are digging a hole by the comments you make that will make it a hard clime back to respectability. I would also make the association that your the same person that used my Sun Talk Board name of "Buzz the Fuzz."
Robert Armstrong April 09, 2011 at 04:10 PM
The Title 1 program covers a lot of areas including Gifted and Talented. It doesn't even have anything to do with "illegals" despite your obsession with them.
Buzz Beeler April 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM
"Families meeting certain criteria can enroll their child in Supplemental Educational Services (SES) if their child attends a Title I school that has been designated by the state to be in need of improvement for more than one year. The term SES refers to free extra academic help, such as tutoring, that is provided to students in subjects such as reading, language arts, and math. This extra help can be provided after school or on weekends." - Per you link. It has a lot to do with illegals. Look at the above reference to language. ESOL is part of that program. Every day in Baltimore County, school buses are picking up children and taking them to English classes. You put the words in quotes. Read it out-loud to yourself. Read it slowly I L L E G A L S. Do you comprehend what that means? Are you familiar with the law? Do you think is right, just and fair to support those that break the law of this land. Read Ron Smith's column on this issue. I posted it. You never answer a question or back up your links with substantiated facts. Title 1 covers illegals and that is a fact. Call Baltimore County Board of education and ask them. I taught in many of those schools. I spent hours discussing the problems with teachers who were fed up. I will tell you this. The graduation rates of illegals will prove that the dream act in reality does not work. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/education/18hispanic.html
DHAMMER April 10, 2011 at 02:14 AM
I have finally figured Matt out ! He still lives at home ,living off Mom and Dad and has no responsibility.No wonder he lives within his means.
Buzz Beeler April 10, 2011 at 03:04 AM
Darrell, you will notice that when the tables are turned and people don't tremble at his words of wisdom, he resorts to personal attacks with a sprinkling of juvenile taunts. His use of "TFB" (sic), in responding to Tiffany's comments is typical. He uses the same tactic with me. I do go after politicians based on their job performance and not personal lives. That is the difference between adults who partake in robust debate and the immature who choose to throw rocks and then hide behind a pseudonym. Rather than using the skills acquired in debating and advancing one's viewpoint, his inexperience has destroyed his creditability. All the comments on this site are stored for anyone to view by clicking on the persons name. When attacking someone on a personal level is tantamount to rock throwing. Darrell, I spent 39 years working for the county and I know a lot more than Matt thinks I do. I will not stoop to that level even to neutralize someone like that. He is here for one reason and that is to defend the political agenda of those he represents.
Robert Armstrong April 10, 2011 at 02:24 PM
It has nothing to do with "illegals". It doesn't even mention "illegals". Your racist obsession is quite appalling. You have "illegals" on the brain.
Robert Armstrong April 10, 2011 at 02:27 PM
The New York Times article you linked discusses the graduation rates of Hispanics it doesn't even mention the word "illegal". I would love to look at your arrest record and see how many Caucasians you arrested versus minorities.
Buzz Beeler April 10, 2011 at 05:02 PM
If you don't like that reference then Google the California school system and see the state they are in. Number one, they have one of the largest illegal populations in the country. Number two, they rank 49th in the educational rankings. They have the highest concentrations of jurisdictions within the state in relationship to crime, one of the highest unemployment rates, the highest gang activity involving illegals . http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters51f8 One of the most recent and egregious criminal acts involves the beating into a coma a paramedic who attended a Giants game. I'll let you read the rest. http://multiamerican.scpr.org/2011/04/race-and-the-dodger-stadium-attack/ As to the issue of illegals and crime you can read for yourself. http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/27/114208.shtml As to you last allegation my arrest records would indicate I would be prejudiced towards whites because I would say the figure was overwhelmingly reflected by a margin of 90% of my arrests were of Caucasians. As I have stated time and time again, you have never either responded to any questions I have repeatably asked you, and again you fail to grasp that before you respond to something do your research. If on the hand you think the links I post are not legitimate, remember you yourself have used the very same links to bolster your viewpoint.
Robert Armstrong April 10, 2011 at 06:07 PM
FAIR? Youvegottabekiddingme The White Supremacist outfit that is advocating forced sterilization for non whites?? That's your source??? Somebody got beat up outside a baseball game and it's the "illegals" fault? Dude, you are out there. Do you ever wear a pointy white hat?
Robert Armstrong April 10, 2011 at 08:58 PM
"All Hispanics are gang members" Whaaat?? Dude what are you smoking?? FAIR is a white supremacist organization. They are not a leader in anything. Anybody can testify before Congress if invited. Even Stephen Colbert. Is he an "expert on immigration"? You are speaking gibberish.
Robert Armstrong April 10, 2011 at 09:02 PM
Here is some more information about your favorite racist organization FAIR http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate/
Richard April 11, 2011 at 01:01 AM
Does it matter? They always endorse the Democrat anyway, knife in the back or not.
Matt April 11, 2011 at 04:21 PM
Robert, I couldn’t agree with you more! Buzz's arguments are constantly flawed. He believes that one thing, must be the one and only explanation for another, i.e. illegal’s have pushed down the education system in California. There couldn’t be any other explanation, could there Buzz? You seem to fit this flawed argument into almost every debate. I'm glad I am not the only one who believes his arguments are completely crazy!
Isadore J. L. April 11, 2011 at 04:55 PM
It is all about perspective, and what options are affordable, if you attended public or private school or if your kids attend public or private. Should class size double if you attend public? maybe. Should it more than double? well maybe or maybe not, It is all perspective. I hope Kevin seeks out alternatives for how cuts are to be made, that listen the impact on class size. He will need those public school parents come election time, see his comments regards his own education, per the sun. ""During his opening statement, Kamenetz incorrectly stated where he went to high school. For purposes of context, here is the beginning portion of Kamenetz’s opening statement: “Folks, you know me. I was born on Liberty Road, I’m a proud graduate of Randallstown High School. I grew up in Lochearn. I served 16 years now as a councilman for the west side. I’m proud to have served eight of those 16 years as your councilman.” The comment has drawn attention from people who attended the debate or heard about it. There have been several comments left on this blog and on the story about Wednesday night’s debate. Kamenetz is graduate of Gilman — a fact stated both on his official council biography and his campaign website. Kamenetz failed to correct the mistake during the 90-minute debate but answered questions about it afterward. “It was a simple mistake,” Kamenetz said. “I don’t know why I said it. I meant to say I graduated from Campfield.""
Buzz Beeler April 11, 2011 at 04:55 PM
I count two people. That is hardly a mandate or a majority based on the number of people who comment on this site. If my memory serves me right, there are many more that take issue with your tactics, language and hiding in the shadows. If you were someone who was not afraid, then I would think you words might carry some weight based on your background. Google my name. I lay all my cards on the table. You are very good at using the word flawed, but never back it up with anything of substance. Letters like you posted in your remark to Tiffany only reflect you maturity level. My comments are based on previously published new articles or figures taken from the county's budget site.
Betty Johnson April 21, 2011 at 11:51 AM
I am tired of hearing people who work for the government speak of cutting jobs, cutting programs, etc. The real secret to prosperity for us all is the enormous amount of money taken for government pensions. It just about shut down GM. That is really where we would be saving the most money. I don't hear anyone in the government talking about their pensions. It is almost non-existent in the private sector. The government is not a profit making machine, why are they the only ones getting the pensions? That alone is draining our economy.


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