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Klausmeier to Support Same-Sex Marriage Bill

Two more county senators throw support behind controversial bill.

Sen. Kathy Klausmeier, a Perry Hall Democrat, said she plans to vote in favor of a bill that would legalize same-sex marriages in Maryland.

Klausmeier said she made the decision after talking to her family, friends and members of the clergy.

"It's an issue of fairness," said Klausmeier, who grew up Catholic but said the bill as written will not force ministers of any religion to perform same-sex marriages if they do not want to.

Klausmeier said she made her decision last week after speaking with a friend about the issue  who "came in and said, 'My mother would really like it if I were able to get married.'"

"That really hit home for me," Klausmeier said. "I could be that mother."

Klausmeier is one of two state senators who represent the county who now say they will support a bill legalizing same-sex marriages in Maryland.

Sen. Edward Kasemeyer, who represents the 12th District that includes Catonsville and Arbutus, is also said to now support the bill.

Kasemeyer did not return a call seeking comment but he told The Baltimore Sun on Valentine's Day that he will vote for the bill.

Last week, Sen. Jim Brochin, a Towson Democrat, said of the same bill after years of opposing efforts to legalize same-sex marriage in Maryland.

Klausmeier and Brochin both represent districts that lean Democrat but tend to be conservative.

Klausmeier said she wasn't sure how her decision would be received in her district, which includes Perry Hall, Parkville and Overlea.

"I'm trying to keep as low a profile on this as I can," said Klausmeier. "This issue is pretty controversial. I think there would be blow back from either side no matter what I decided to do."

CKnick February 25, 2011 at 06:56 PM
I fond it quite ironic Former Candidate Smith that you can say that my comments are abusive and accusatory when every post you have made as well as Fred Shillfarth's are abusive to me. I was born a homosexual and will die a homosexual. God made me this way and all you do is attack my very existence as a "mistake" and a "sin". Think about the harm you are doing with your speech to the identified 10% of the population that identifies as gay. I am sure it is higher, but duue to rhetoric such as yours, people are afraid to "come out". Have you ever really thought about your words and how they make people feel. Christ would!
Steven Smith February 25, 2011 at 07:19 PM
CKnick, I challenge you to find a quote of mine where I was abusive to you. I understand and accept that God created each of us. I have yet to see proof that being homosexual is instilled at birth, I personally think that society has a strong influence on the choices we all make, but I do not question someone’s belief when they state that they were born gay. I have never stated that being gay is a sin or a mistake. I have friends who are gay and they know that I do not pass judgment upon them or any others. Judgment is not for me to pass upon others, it is between them and God. I understand that the United States Government (under Obama) has released statistics that 12% of the population is gay. I do not question those figures, but I do accept the argument that it could be a higher number given those who are, "still in the closet" on the issue. I invite people to accept who they are; I am not one to stand in the way of others choices. I consider my words very carefully before posting them or speaking. I am not afraid to apologize when necessary, but I will defend myself when I am accused incorrectly of something that I am not guilty of. Steve Smith – Former Candidate for District 11 Delegate
CKnick February 25, 2011 at 07:33 PM
Sir, You have not been abusive to me .personally, but while you do not think your statements are hateful, they are hateful to me as a gay man. I am offended when people do not think that I deserve the same rights as everyone else. That is the bottom line. You have said that Civil Unions for Gays is okay but Marriage is not. For me, separate but equal is not enough and any comments like that is hateful to me. Sorry, but I have been treated as a second class citizen for too long and I am just tired of it. Walk a day in my shoes...I doubt you would last 5 minutes.
CKnick February 25, 2011 at 07:38 PM
Sir, I also forgot to mention a statement you made in your last post. You said... I understand that the United States Government (under Obama) has released statistics that 12% of the population is gay. I do not question those figures, but I do accept the argument that it could be a higher number given those who are, "still in the closet" on the issue. I invite people to accept who they are; I am not one to stand in the way of others choices. How can you ask people to accept who they are and then not stand in the way of their choices? If they accept who they are, it is not a choice. You did not say choose who they are.
Killi Macklin February 25, 2011 at 07:46 PM
CK, please correct me if I'm wrong, because if I am, I want to be put in my place for making assumptions. The Gay Community doesn't want to be "married" as much as they want the same rights provided to heterosexual partnerships by the state. If heterosexual unions were called Civil Unions, Civil Partnerships, Friends With Benefits License, the gay community wouldn't care, as long as the rights were equal. In my opinion, when the government began sanctioning marriage, such a union, in this context, was no longer a religious matter. The gay community is not requesting religious support, but rather equal support from the state.
CKnick February 25, 2011 at 07:56 PM
Killi, I can only speak for my self and my gay friends. My partner of 11 years and I want to be married as well as my friends, many of whom have been with their partners for over 30 years. The legal benefits and protections are the primary goal here yes, but having a different name for it such as a Civil Union says it is separate and not equivalent to the contract heterosexuals enter into, marriage. I agree with you that when the government began sanctioning marriage, it no longer became a religious matter, so there should be no religious argument against civil marriages, gay or straight. Lastly, I just want to say that I was a bit offended by your "Friends With Benefits License". My partner and I are a loving couple that work hard and live our lives as best we can. To trivialize it by calling people in our situation Friedns With Benefits is insulting.
Steven Smith February 25, 2011 at 08:16 PM
CKnick, My statement regarding the changing of the word "Marriage" to another word or phrase describing the union of two same sex people is a matter of semantics. I have repeatedly stated that gay couples should have the same freedoms and rights (pertaining to uniting them legally) as do traditionally married couples. My suggestion is intended to be a small compromise by the gay community to assist this Bill to go forward. I am not asking for the gay community to compromise their freedoms and rights, I only ask for a compromise on a word that describes the union itself. The word, "Married" is a reference to many that means joining a Man and a Woman together legally. Asking the gay community to accept a small word change seems to be a small request given that the gay community is asking for many others to compromise their own moral beliefs to accept Gay Civil Unions. Steve Smith - Former Candidate for MD District 11 Delegate
CKnick February 25, 2011 at 08:23 PM
Sir, It may be a small word to you, but to those of us that are fighting for this small word, it means so much more. Obviously, you will never understand where I am coming from and I you. My parents are married, my brother is married, my sister is married...I want to get married.
Steven Smith February 25, 2011 at 09:14 PM
CKnick It is not just a word; it is the meaning behind the word. For many centuries around the world the word ‘marriage’ has meant the union of a man and a woman. I am one of a very few who understand where you are coming from. I have a few friends and several acquaintances who are gay. We have discussed this issue over several years starting back when I was a teenager myself. For nearly 30 years this issue has been in my mind and a topic of discussion. I have formed an opinion that is very well thought out. While I do not expect you to understand me, I definitely understand you. A few years ago I was having a meeting with gay and non-gay members of a community. One gay man stood up and said, “I can accept calling a gay legal union by another word or phrase, as long as gay couples have the same rights as do traditionally married couples.” He continued, “I can understand that asking the non-gay community to accept the use of the word ‘marriage’ to define a gay couples’ legal union would be like asking the gay community to go straight.” It took me some time, and a few more meetings to completely accept what he was saying. Ultimately he told me that a word change would be acceptable to him as long as the rights and privileges would be extended to him also. Steve Smith – Former Candidate for MD District 11 Delegate
Michelle Blevins February 25, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Tom Barnes, in the Bible it says, "Jesus said," You who have no sin cast the first stone, " Yes Jesus also picked up the Women to her feet and said, "Go and Sin no more." I live by the Bible and how The Holy Bible teaches about God the best to my ability. I also work for a wonderful Organization. I take my kids to church with family. I will now end this, good night
CKnick February 25, 2011 at 09:42 PM
At least we agree on one thing. It is not just a word. A marriage is a beutiful union between two people that love each other. Sorry, that is what I want. I can't beat this dead horse anymore...I am tired. Good luck to your side and good luck to mine.
Tom Barnes February 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM
No Michelle Blevins- you live in ARROGANCE because you READ the Bible - it's not that you LIVE the Bible. You live in ARROGANCE with your VERSION of what a 'Christian' is. Am I suppose to give you a cookie, Michelle Blevins, for all your listed accomplishments about how wonderful you are???? I'm certainly not looking for one... why are you? Wait, let me arrogantly protest your life by proclaiming mine!!! I take my kids to church. I am also a former seminary student. I am alos afoster adoptive parent. I also work for a wonderful organization. <finger pop> All you listed - ARROGANCE and BACK PATTING of yourself. Did you break your arm? HUMBLE YOURSELF.
Tom Barnes February 25, 2011 at 10:01 PM
Fred Shillfarth - it's not so much that you are spewing hate as you are spewing arrogance. What is it today with all of you patting yourself on the backs for all you do/have done? I mean, really?? Wow. You and Michelle Blevins need to get off the cross. Someone else needs the wood.
Tom Barnes February 25, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Fred Shillfarth - as usual, you have your facts incorrect. I never correct your spelling, but it's ok. If it makes you feel good being juvenile, go for it. As for twisting things - Fred Shillfarth... did you know that the word or references to 'homosexual' weren't even in the Bible until 1876? Go pull an old Bible and you will see what I mean. Today's PRETEND 'christians' are the ones that continue to twist things. I;ve said it before and I will say it again: "You can safely assume you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out God hates all the same people you do." Amen.
Killi Macklin February 25, 2011 at 10:08 PM
My use of "Friends With Benefits License" was attempting to demonstrate that the terminology used for the sanction is trivial when compared to the real issue at hand, which is the rights and freedoms permitted to those retaining the licensed partnership. Would you be satisfied if both heterosexual and homosexual unions were equal and it were called something other than marriage?
fred4401 February 25, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Boy Tom Barnes, Talk about ARROGANCE. Are you not doing the same thing that you are condeming in others that don't agree with you. Now I know why you are a former Seminary student . I guess that you did not make it as well as you said that Steve did not make it.
Tom Barnes February 25, 2011 at 10:29 PM
I don't trumpet a God and a Bible and Christianity, Fred Shillfarth, and pound my chest about all of my wonderfulness, so get over the tit-for-tat. Nice try to goad me, not working. The three of you puff up your chests way to much. Not within the caliber inwhich I operate.
CKnick February 25, 2011 at 10:48 PM
Killi, I am sorry I read your last post wrong. Certainly the basic want here is the rights and freedoms permitted to those in a licensed partnership. At the same time, while it may seem trivial, calling it something different for gays and straights implies inequality in a sense. It implies that our union is not the same, and I don't mean sexually, as a straight union in the eyes of the state. Remember, we are talking about the state here, not churches.
Adam February 26, 2011 at 05:05 AM
Tom, you come off as a "know-it-all" charlatan. You insinuate the Bible and Christianity is a fraud and then you use it to attempt to prove a point. You point out others "overly self-righteousness attitude" and in doing so you make yourself sound like the most judgmental, arrogant fool yourself. You seem to be losing some steam my friend. I will pray for you.
Tom Barnes February 26, 2011 at 05:30 AM
Thanks for the laugh Fred. I mean Adamn.
Jj Whfdgh February 26, 2011 at 05:45 AM
I am openly gay and live with my boyfriend in the heart of dundalk we fly a gay pride flag in our front yard. I moved here from out west and have had nothing but open arms for the poeple of dundalk even big straight men who call us friends. We pay our taxes and keep our houses and yards neat and clean. I just keep thinking about the song "we shall overcome" . I believe that someday it will happen but I'm not going to force anything on anyone, people will make up their minds when they are ready. I really don't need a paper to tell me who i plan to spend the rest of my life with the law already covers him in my estate.
Tim Anderson March 12, 2011 at 05:23 PM
Marriage is between a man and a woman. I pray that our delagates come to their senses and realize that besides the moral issues. Gay sex is unnatural. I will politely call it the "ICK Factor" of what happens between gay men. It simply causes serious health problems. The avg life expectancy of a of a male smoker in the US is 66 years old. The average life expectancy of a gay male is 44. Is it a healthy and natural thing? I belief not! I will pray for people to come to their senses.
Terri Czarski March 12, 2011 at 05:39 PM
Tim Anderson, You know what? I rarely say things like this but you are a true idiot. If you don't want sex with another guy, then don't have sex with another guy. Perhaps you are spending too much time thinking/dreaming/fantasizing about this subject? Your facts are also wrong about life expectancy but don't let lies get in the way of your bigoted thoughts. None of what you have to say has anything at all to do with granting civil rights to people who merely want to love and take care of each other. Nor does anything you say apply to lesbians. Are you Ok with lesbians marrying because it's less of an "ick"factor? Your religious beliefs and your prayers are irrelevant to a matter of law and civil rights. I'm tired of trying to politely point these things out to people. Get educated, get a clue and stop being a backward, hateful individual.
Tom Barnes March 12, 2011 at 06:19 PM
Let me get this straight...Charlie Sheen can make a "porn family", Kelsey Grammer can end a 15 year marriage over the phone, Larry King can be on divorce #9, Britney Spears had a 55 hour marriage, Jesse James and Tiger Woods, while married, were having sex with EVERYONE. Yet, the idea of same-sex marriage is going to destroy the institution of marriage? Really?
fred4401 March 12, 2011 at 06:29 PM
OK ,This has been on facebook for a couple of days now. How about something original?
Tim Anderson March 12, 2011 at 06:34 PM
Terri, I did not name call . I did not Did you? Did I hit a nerve? The truth has a tendency to do that. I wonder why the rage. Why the attack? I sense guilt or dis-ease. How is calling someone an idiot and hinting "falsely" that they have gay tendencies "polite". I am hardly an ill-educated, bigoted, backward, hateful individual. If ever got to know me you might not say such mean spirited things. I am available to meet you any Sunday at 10:00 am, St. Timothy's on Ingleside Ave. .... Jesus Loves You Whether You Like It or Not
Terri Czarski March 12, 2011 at 07:28 PM
Tim Anderson, Yes, you hit a nerve. The nerve you hit is my "irritated by people living in the dark ages" nerve.As an intelligent, educated person who also believes in a higher power, I know that the claptrap you espouse , is just that-claptrap. Cloak yourself in whatever misreading of the Bible you want to, but try a bit harder to wrap your brain around the fact that in this country, there is separation of Church and state. You words reveal you to be a bigot. Sorry the truth hurts you so.
Tim Anderson March 12, 2011 at 08:33 PM
Terri, What higher power is there than the Holy Trinity, God Jesus + the Holy Spirit? None :) The dark ages are those times someone lives their life without the grace that God gave us through the sacrifice of his Son Jesus Christ. You are right I must be fool ... a nobody.... "Isn't is obvious that God deliberately chose men and women the culture overlook and exploits and abuses, chose these "nobodies" to expose the hollow pretensions of the "somebodies"?.... Everything that we have- right thinking and right living, a clean slate and a fresh start- comes from God by way of Jesus Christ." 1 Cor 28-30 The Message
Terri Czarski March 12, 2011 at 08:37 PM
At your invitation, I checked out the St. Timothy's website and spent a fair amount of time reading the vision statement by the pastor. I see that your church is a proponent of "regeneration" ministry that assumes ( wrongly) that gay people are depressed and unhappy and want to be cured. So , I suppose you just adhere to the misguided and damaging teachings of your pastor without applying independent thought. If that makes you happy, so be it. However, to the extent gay people ever are that depressed and unhappy, it has been my experience that the root of the unhappiness is being treated like second class citizens by some members of the community, such as yourself. So , I'll take a pass on attending your church. I prefer a church where I and my family are accepted as whole persons and beloved children of God.
Terri Czarski March 13, 2011 at 12:44 AM
You are entitled to believe whatever you choose to believe, no matter how misguided . That is the beauty of our Constitution . However, that same Constitution is clear that your religious beliefs should not interfere with my civil rights. Let's think about it this way. What if I belonged to a Church that had as part of its core doctrine the firmly held belief that ONLY gay people should marry their same sex partners? I am sure that you would not appreciate my church telling you that your feelings of love for your opposite sex partner should not be held equal under the laws of the state. Before you scoff, that is no more ridiculous than the beliefs of some other "religions" that are recognized as legitimate by our government ( I hesitate to poke fun at some of them but the one Tom Cruise belongs to comes to mind. Research how Scientology came to be. It will give you some good belly laughs.)

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