MD Students Rank First in the Nation in Advanced Placement Exam Scores

Maryland shows an increase of nearly 12 percent since 2003.

Maryland is first in the nation on Advanced Placement exams. Patch File Photo
Maryland is first in the nation on Advanced Placement exams. Patch File Photo

Maryland is ranked first in the nation in Advanced Placement exam scores for 2013 public high school graduates.

In a report released by the college board, nearly 30 percent (29.6%) of high school graduates in the state scored 3 or higher on an AP Exam. This is up nearly 12 percent since 2003. Connecticut, Virginia, Massachusetts took the next three spots respectively. Advanced Placement Exams are scored on a 5-point scale.

According to the College Board, which administers the test, there has been a 7.9 point increase in the percentage of U.S. public high school graduates scoring a 3 or higher on an AP Exam since 2003. Seventeen states across the country exceed the national average.

Read the full report from the College Board >>
macgeek February 12, 2014 at 08:52 AM
hmm, the schools are saying this? the data can be altered. Im not sure I'm buying it. I don't trust our schools... or the people that run them. that would be like me running a car repair shop and declaring that my shop is the best in the area.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 08:59 AM
Stats are always manipulated to fit the agenda. Baltimore's famous faux pas with the rape numbers. The county keeps changing their reporting cycle from every two years to every five years. This brings the numbers down. Talk to the teachers and they will set the record straight. Overall the U.S. keeps slipping in the world rankings. Look at the military's sexual assault cases and the disparity in their reports. Look at ObamaCare. Look at the states health care exchange disaster.
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 09:34 AM
The document where this data came from supports their claim in the article. It was done by a non-profit group based out of NY, and only includes public schools. Here is an excerpt from the report about their data: "Because a central source of demographic data for nonpublic schools is not available for all states, this report represents public school students only. References to the total number of high school graduates represent projections supplied in Knocking at the College Door (Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education, 2012). Additionally, this report looks at students’ entire experience with AP— tracking exams taken by graduates throughout their high school careers — as opposed to just reporting exam results from a particular calendar year. Additional data are available exclusively online at apreport.collegeboard.org."
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 09:37 AM
Looks legitimate to me. Why not be proud of our high school kids? Contrary to popular demand not all kids are lazy stupid video game playing back-talking slackers. There are some really intelligent driven kids out there. Good for them and good for Maryland!
jag February 12, 2014 at 09:38 AM
Hey nutjob conspiracy theorists, try reading the article: the stats are from College Board (you know, the people who administer the test), not from the state or schools.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 10:52 AM
Talk to the leading CEO's who consistently say our college graduates are ill prepared to enter the business world. This is from the USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/31/more-than-a-college-degree/3324303/ Here is another assessment: http://www.advanc-ed.org/issues-in-education/workplace Look at what the city is doing. Everyone graduates but can't read or write. Google it in the Sun. Do your homework before mouthing off.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM
Here are what the numbers show in the report: http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/ap/rtn/10th-annual/10th-annual-ap-report-to-the-nation-single-page.pdf 29.6% of MD students taking the AP test scored a 3 or higher. The number three means qualified. There are numbers four and five above that. Now you tell me how only 30% of MD's students (out of 100%) are qualified to take college courses according to the report. Does that mean the other 70% are not ready for college?
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM
You're gonna ave to come up with a page number for where it says a score of 3 is means "qualified for college" because I don't see it. I don't think the study or the article are about being "qualified" to take college courses. It's just saying that Maryland's 30% with a score of 3 is the highest number of all the states that participated in the report. I guess if you looked at it from a "glass half empty" you could say 70% didn't do as well and therefore Maryland schools suck. I'll take the "glass half full" point of view. Thanks for the "Buzz"-kill.
jag February 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM
Buzz, I have not missed your idiotic posts. I'm glad to see you're still alive and kickin', but can you seriously, please get a hobby that doesn't involve embarrassing yourself on a regular basis. For your information, because you appear to be illiterate, 29.6% (yes, of course out of 100%, Buzz) of MD students take at least one AP course and also get a 3 or higher on the exam. That's the highest in the nation and 50% higher than the average state. It does not mean "29.6% of MD students taking the AP test scored a 3 or higher." Nor does it mean "the other 70% are not ready for college." It means what it says: 30% of MD students have already taken and passed college-level coursework while still in high school. Again, the best in the nation. Trying to spin these facts by completely misstating them (or having such a poor grasp of our language and/or reality that you honestly don't comprehend what you read) is just weird. And sad.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Bryan, do you know how to do research? It's not that hard. AP tests are scored on a 1 to 5 scale as follows: 5 – Extremely well qualified 4 – Well qualified 3 – Qualified 2 – Possibly qualified 1 – No recommendation. All I'm saying is that we as a nation are not prepared to compete on a global level with other countries who are pressing to pass us. The slide continues. I am a realist. I look at the facts and as I stated in my first comment you have to look hard and understand the implications. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/03/248329823/u-s-high-school-students-slide-in-math-reading
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM
Are you taking about what jag called me? Go back and take a look. Quote me the name I called anyone? If you want to write a comment you might want to start off your sentence with a capital letter. Now Jag I read your comment: " 30% of MD students have already taken and passed college-level coursework while still in high school." You just answered your own question. Thirty percent of how many students in the school system or 30% of the total number that took the test. No matter how you slice it; 3 out 10, 30 out of 100 etc. the math still comes out the same. Read the links I posted and tell macgeek who is doing the name calling. I don't use words like "idiotic" or "nut job".
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM
Ok Buzz, I'll give you that on a global scale we are lagging. But that's not what the article is about. And you say yourself a 3 is WELL qualified, when you earlier said just qualified, so you contradict yourself. I'll make you a deal, I'll do better research if you'll stay on topic.
jag February 12, 2014 at 12:45 PM
"Thirty percent of how many students in the school system or 30% of the total number that took the test. " You're posing that as if it's the question. OBVIOUSLY, it's the former because that's exactly what the report says. 30% of MD high school students take and pass college-level courses before graduating. The best in the nation. I don't know how to state it any clearer for you. Maybe just read the report again and/or accept that you're incapable of understanding it. Either way, please stop commenting when all you're doing is spewing out sentences that are categorically inaccurate.
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 01:11 PM
OK I misspoke..he did say 3 was qualified.
Mike February 12, 2014 at 02:11 PM
For those who (like me) think the statistic seems awfully high, a potentially misleading factor is that the sample is "high school graduates" rather than the set of all persons who had attended public school. I would also bet that as with the massive score-inflation on the SAT, a 3 on an AP exam doesn't mean nearly what it did in, say, the mid 1980s.
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 02:48 PM
Buzz is back and still comparing apples to oranges. This is a silly blog, I'm not writing a book so no need to correct gramer. Or speleng...To infinity and Beyond!!!
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 02:53 PM
jag, I posted your own quote to my comment. You referenced that my assessment of the report was inaccurate based on my math. Yes MD is number one but that is like saying a company is number one in sales but loses money. If they sell at a loss i.e. a price war, in the end they lose even though the hype says they are number one. Now if MD had a 70% pass rate that would be exemplary. If you had a baseball team and your best batter was batting .120, he would be number one, but does that mean he is a good hitter in the overall league? I doubt it. Bryan I am on topic. My reference to the number three was in response to jag's math on percentages. I don't care how you cut it, 30 out of 100 is a poor stat. Bryan use the (the past subjunctive) form were instead of was.
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 03:05 PM
Well I for one will sleep better knowing you've cleared all this up for everyone. :-)
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 03:19 PM
Mike, well stated. Bryan, the stats are clear but there are those who do not understand percentages. I am trying to explain by using metaphors. If people don't understand percentages they can't determine the real impact of how those numbers (percentages) are applied. No you are not writing a book and it gets tiresome dealing with people who constantly attack someone like jag and macgeek (whatever) and can't carry on discourse when someone challenges them.
Bryan Harz February 12, 2014 at 03:43 PM
It can be frustrating to have a dialog with someone when name calling and condescension enter the picture. I have run into it on numerous occasions on the patch and Yahoo News. I just thought it was an interesting article and decided to comment and give MD a big hoorah! How it got into a heated argument about math and percentages I don't know. I think we've all beaten this horse to death. Have a great evening and enjoy the snow!
macgeek February 12, 2014 at 04:15 PM
its not polite to call people names dip S**t just because you disagree with them. get a life.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 04:25 PM
Bryan, thanks. I was involved in stats with the Co PD and saw how the game was played. We made the numbers say what ever the brass wanted them to say. You see what I deal with all the time with macgeek's comment. Don't worry about grammar, I'm the worst. That's why I have an editor when I write my blogs.
jag February 12, 2014 at 05:00 PM
"I don't care how you cut it, 30 out of 100 is a poor stat." Buzz, how in god's name can you say near 1/3 MD high schoolers passing at least 1 (most take several; I, myself, took 8 back in the day) college-level class is a poor stat? By every possible comparison - to other states or to previous years - 30% is a great figure. You're insane and, frankly, it sounds like you still don't even understand what we're discussing. You seem to think 70% of students are failing these AP tests.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Do you understand what percentages are about? Read what I wrote prior. Thirty percent of anything is not a great figure. If we break it down simplistically it is 3 of of 10. You forget that figure was based on a particular number of students that took the test. Read this link on what a percent is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage Here is a small quote from the article: "The word 'percent' means 'out of 100' or 'per 100'. Your own quote admits to failure: "By every possible comparison - to other states or to previous years - 30% is a great figure" When you were in school and you took a test and you received a 30 on your test paper that is a F. Here are the grading averages per 100%: Percentage Grades GPA 96–100 A 4.2 91–95 A- 3.7 88-90 B+ 3.4 84-87 B 3.0 81-83 B- 2.7 78-80 C+ 2.4 74-77 C 2.0 71-73 C- 1.7 68-70 D+ 1.3 64-67 D 1.0 61-63 D- 0.7 00-60 F 0.0
jag February 12, 2014 at 07:54 PM
Buzz, you are an unfathomably dense person. Honestly, get your caretaker to explain this to you next time you're lucid. Pretending the GPA scale is some sort of universal metric is beyond idiotic. So if 30% of Marylanders were billionaires then you'd still give MD an F? Or 30% of nobel prize winners were from MD you'd still pretend that's unimpressive? 30% of high school kids taking and passing college coursework is abundantly impressive and I applaud them.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 08:08 PM
By the way jag I would say your use of slurs indicates your intelligence level. If out of the total number of people that took the test 30% passed it then...? Again when you apply a % of something it is base on 'out of 100 or per 100. What is the total number of students that took the test? That is your base line, whether it was 100 or 100,000. You don't understand what the term percent is and how it applies. You are implying or accepting that because the State of MD received the highest score in the classroom that is a great thing when in fact the other states failed worse than we did. What you don't understand with your quote of "You seem to think 70% of students are failing these AP tests.", is that when they base the test results on a % bases it means that out of so many students that took the test (per 100) only 30% of whatever the total number that took the test, passed it. Now for the real facts concerning your argument; in the State of MD per the article, 101,915 AP tests were administered. So 30% of those 101,415 scored a 3 (qualified) means 2,958 students that took the test scored a qualified score. This is based on the articles own testing procedures.
Buzz Beeler February 12, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Google the term and the site will convert the numeric number into a GPA. So you won't get confused I'll do it for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grading_%28education%29#History_of_grading Now as to your following question of "Or 30% of nobel prize [sic) winners were from MD you'd still pretend that's unimpressive? " You do know what [sic] means? It's Nobel Prize, a proper noun. But I would not dare challenge your knowledge. "Between 1901 and 2013, the Nobel Prizes and the Prize in Economic Sciences were awarded 561 times to 876 people and organizations." That is a far cry from 101,415, don't you think? Your math is a bit skewed.
Buzz Beeler February 13, 2014 at 12:00 AM
Hey DD where is "College"? I never heard of that school. What did you do DD to serve your community? You have seven children? I see your intellectual abilities limit you to one sentence again. I thought you said you graduated from Purdue University and had a degree and worked as a mining engineer in Mexico? I thought you served in three wars overseas and spoke six languages. You did this while having seven children? Amazing! Where is all that evidence you promised to e-mail me on your great accomplishments? I have been waiting a long time. I thought you were contacting NY. Where is that letter? All mouth, no action. By the way, back then it took a 70% grade to make it into the academy. Sadly they had to lower the standards.
Buzz Beeler February 13, 2014 at 01:31 AM
I guess DD has nothing to say or better yet e-mail me.
Buzz Beeler February 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM
Give me a number and I'll turn myself in. Then I would get to see who DD is because if you file a complaint you must provide identification. The mail must be really slow from NY. I was just in touch with them and people will now notice that the graphics on the Dundalk page have been fixed. The right hand side of the page no longer contains the same news item repeatedly. DD should I surrender and plead mercy? You do have a way a deflecting from the topic don't you.


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